2008 318ti.org calendar

[1996 328ti]

It's that time of year.
Post your best photo in the gallery.
http://www.318ti.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=806

Photos will be selected for the 2008 318ti.org calendar.
Photos must denote the 318ti.
No frontal shots!

2400 x 1800 pixels or higher.

1 photo per member.

Each photo will be rated during October.
The highest rated 12 go into the 2008 calendar.

The calendar will be assembled in November.

Photos previously used are not eligible.

Voting begins October 1, 2008 and no further photos will be allowed.
Rules subject to change.

[Philly]

cut-off time for submitting pics is the end of september?

i ended up 15th or somethin last year with a stock TI photo, gonna have to get my arse in gear and get my car together and try to make 12!

[1996 328ti]

Yep. This way we can vote during October and spend November filling in the details of each photo.

[Bozola]

Are you opposed to photoshopped pics like this??
http://homepage.mac.com/bozola/bmwmoon.jpg

[Marv17]

awww.... dude that pics looks cool. but i think thats like cheating. isnt it? cuz i thought the calendar was aiming at true, natural pictures of the Ti's. Am i wrong?

[1996 328ti]

I have no problem with photoshop.

[trickiekid]

I know this might sound off the wall, but just remember that I am still relatively new to this forum. I have an almost bone stock 318ti. I am a photographer by trade and have pretty good photoshop skills. You want just unadulterated photos of the cars and photoshoped backgraounds, or can we "touch" up the cars too? I am just saying this because I can turn my bone stock 318ti with hubcaps into a DTM styled racer. Just want clarification, sorry if i am thinking too deep into this.

[Philly]

wouldn't the calendar be a tad odd if in june you have a crazy photoshop like above, then switch to july and have a regular pictured TI?
i think it would kind of throw off the theme a little, JMO.

[L84THSKY]

Photoshopping the background is one thing, Photoshopping the car is another:cool:

[DustenT]

We all have to vote on the winners anyways. If you don't like the photos just don't vote on them. Makes sense, right?

[StealthBimmer]

I personally like the true natural pictures for the calendar. Now for photoshop then that should be in its own league/calendar.:tongue:

[trickiekid]

Photoshopping the background is one thing, Photoshopping the car is another:cool:

That is kind of what I was aluding to. I think that photshop should only be used to do normal touch ups like removing door dings, rock chips, etc.

[mohaughn]

So if it is 1 entry per person is it proper for 1 person to have their friends enter pictures for them? Maybe it should be 1 entry per car.

[1996 328ti]

So if it is 1 entry per person is it proper for 1 person to have their friends enter pictures for them? Maybe it should be 1 entry per car.We'll make it 1 car next year.

[ATF]

A lot of the entries I have seen are mostly frontals or don't have 318ti visible, how important is this? I'm going to do my photoshoot hopefully before the weekend :)

[mohaughn]

If it is a good shot that you think members will vote for there are not really any requirements.. Shots that make it very easy to tell it is a Ti, or show off the hatch will probably be preferred.

It is kind of hurting for 12 good submissions this year...

[Philly]

its gonna be awful lame if more than one of socal "group" photos make it in the calendar... I think those group photos should be reserved for the cover shot only... not the months.

whats gonna happen if 2+ pictures with all the same cars in the pic make it in the calender? Not gonna be much variety.

[Rhys]

What's the cut off time?
Might have another go this weekend as I'm away in the Lake District - some nice scenery there. Will be cutting it fine though.

Still chuffed about being front cover last time, very nice calendars.http://bavarian-board.co.uk/smileys/beerchug.gif

[1996 328ti]

What's the cut off time?I'm going to be away until Oct 8. So let's say Oct 8. Then I'll delete those who posted twice and open up the voting.

[Rhys]

Smashing, might have another crack at this one then. Got an excuse to try my new digi camera out properly now. http://bavarian-board.co.uk/smileys/beerchug.gif

[Philly]

perfect cutoff, ill have time to get a charger for my cam and better pics!! :D :D :D

[Rhys]

Now then, 2400 x 1800 pixels or higher - is this portrait or landscape format?

[Rhys]

Have entered one in Landscape format. have blanked out the rear number plate (usual security procedure on our forum - a lot of members don't like their registrations shown).

That's about the only photoshopping I've done, except to crop to 2400 x 1800 (guess that will be the size ratio required)Good luck to all who entered.http://bavarian-board.co.uk/smileys/beerchug.gif

[1996 328ti]

Let the voting begin.
Rate each photo from 1 to 10.
The top 12 will be chosen for the 2008 calendar.

No more photo's will be accepted.
Except for jgrimm which I accidentally deleted.

[cooljess76]

It is kind of hurting for 12 good submissions this year...
I agree, is there even 12 cars if you eliminate all but 1 of Hugo's? Now I wish I would have just submitted one of my old photos, instead of waiting for a front lip and getting screwed over:rolleyes:

[mohaughn]

Well, to me, I think the spirit and intention of the rule is pretty clear. I have to vote accordingly.

[ATF]

I'm curious how you guys are rating your pictures.

I'm rating less of the car, and more on the thought, clarity (focus) and proportions of the picture.

[1996 328ti]

I'm curious how you guys are rating your pictures.

I'm rating less of the car, and more on the thought, clarity (focus) and proportions of the picture.Same here. Those who actually gave it some thought, I'm giving 8s and 9s.

[1996 328ti]

This voting is so f'kd up this year.
Everyone in SoCal rates the SoCal groups' pictures as 10?
No car is going to be included more than once.

[lazoh]

This voting is so f'kd up this year.
Everyone in SoCal rates the SoCal groups' pictures as 10?
No car is going to be included more than once.

If the other haters would stop giving good pictures one, I think that voting would have gone better. Animosity get us no-where!!! Be fair and rate the pictures accordingly.

[ATF]

Some are also editing their rating on a photo after that user has rated his photo with a lower score. Heck even I'm guilty of it, but at this point I don't really care if my photo makes the calendar anymore. I'd just like to see the shots that deserve a spot, to be granted that opportunity.

[elchicano318ti]

I'd just like to see the shots that deserve a spot, to be granted that opportunity.

+1, i didn't wanna say anything bt i just check out the calender entries and some of the scores are way to high for average looking pictures. It's more like a popularity contest. How bout really giving good scores to the pictures dat do deserve them, cuz even mine is looks lik crap compared to other entries:biggrin:

[Rhys]

If judging is rated by favouritism I'm not bothering next year - that's if what is said is true. Also there should be a lock on voting, once voted you shouldn't be able to change your mind..

Also there was a point on no frontal shots, so I voted accordingly.
Location... again, voted accordingly.
Group shots? Not for me I'm afraid, should be an individual idea interpreted using their car. (one, I won't say which, to me has bad composition and no foreground/background interest - but that's just my personal opinion I'm sure others would disagree)

I might just send a link to an amateur photography forum I frequent, see what they say..:smile:

[1996 328ti]

If judging is rated by favouritism I'm not bothering next year - that's if what is said is true.Same here.

Other than rating, there is a voting function. I need to check it our and may do this all over.

[1996 328ti]

This is a simple thing to do, yet a few people choose to make it difficult.

I've removed the ratings. Now pick 1 favorite photo out of all the choices.
http://www.318ti.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=806

Hugo, since you have a single shot of your car, only one might be chosen.

[Rhys]

A lot better http://bavarian-board.co.uk/smileys/beerchug.gif

[1996 328ti]

A lot better http://bavarian-board.co.uk/smileys/beerchug.gifThanks. Now to figure who to make the votes invisible until the end of voting.

[larryn]

Agreed. A ton better.

[1996 328ti]

Total votes will remain hidden until the end of the month.
I'll use the ratings to break ties or follow my own judgment.

[lkwd318ti]

I'm second to last now :(
lol i know i know...

[1996 328ti]

I'm second to last now :(
lol i know i know...The photos should be displayed in random order. Next to last has nothing to do with voting or rating.

[Rhys]

call me cynical but have you ever thought that a pic with more than one car displayed will get votes from all those who were in it?

[1996 328ti]

call me cynical but have you ever thought that a pic with more than one car displayed will get votes from all those who were in it?Although many of them have individual photos as well.
Next year, no group photos unless it goes on the cover.

[lkwd318ti]

The photos should be displayed in random order. Next to last has nothing to do with voting or rating.

hahah I know, I was just kidding, hence the "lol i know i know" part :tongue:

[Bozola]

Never random for me.. (Third from last):confused:

[1996 328ti]

Next time I'll just create a poll on the message board.
Some people are making this more work than is necessary.

Or I'll just pick the ones I want.

[Bozola]

That is a great idea.. I trust your judgment!

[Marv17]

why are ppl making it sound so difficult? just vote and be done with it. dont b!tch about it, sounds like a bunch of lil girls man. sheesh. yeah steve, i agree with u. pick them if you want. they are all nice pics to me...

[elchicano318ti]

yea steve just pick the ones u think think are the top 12 see if next year it'll go better

[teetime4one]

i said screw it and just voted for one picture.
i hope my simple approach helps out some...

[cali-ti]

pick the ones you want steven and call it done :)

[tol4o]

Steve, you should be the judge to avoid the rating to be based on popularity between the members! Just pick 12 of your choice and finish with it. I think this way would be fair for everyone

[GroggyinMO]

The Photoshopped and tricked out cars are great and I enjoy all of them
but there is nothing wrong with a nice bone stock TI also
That IS where we all started correct ????

[Rhys]

Sounds fair enough to me..

[bmvw]

My recommendation would be to get a committee of mods & admins to pick the shots. Or allow voting by members with 200+ posts only, it could promote more participation. Set the criteria in advance - decide if it's going to be about the members cars, or based on strong visuals - & stick to it.

[teetime4one]

i agree with bmvw too...set the criteria in advance if that is what's needed.

[DustenT]

I'll volunteer to help pick the pictures, I haven't even looked at them yet.

I'm impressed that a couple people managed to ruin the calendar this year. Nice work!

[1996 328ti]

My recommendation would be to get a committee of mods & admins to pick the shots. Or allow voting by members with 200+ posts only, it could promote more participation. Set the criteria in advance - decide if it's going to be about the members cars, or based on strong visuals - & stick to it.It was much simpler the last two years. Now one member's car is in repeated different photos with help from his friends bumping up the ratings. Then some others purposely bringing down the ratings. The whole spirit of the calendar was lost this year.

Next year more rules.
1 car and I'll create a poll for people to pick multiple entries.

I'm going to select 12 or 13 and that's it.
I'll base it on the number of votes and ratings pictures had, then use my own judgment.

[Marv17]

yeah. sry for those who seemed to bitch too much like lil girls in high school. its a shame how the whole thing just got out of hand. well i persume that we all as a majority trust ur judgement steven. thanks.

[larryn]

I'm going to select 12 or 13 and that's it.

Perfect.

I feel sorry that you had to deal with bullsh!t, Steven. People that did stack votes should be banned from voting in the future. Period. That is just plain crappy, and they knew it. They should be ashamed, but you know they aren't.

I also agree with no group photos, since it encourages group voting.

[larryn]

yeah. sry for those who seemed to bitch too much like lil girls in high school.

Hmm. Funny you're in a group photo. Interesting. :rolleyes: I love it when offenders claim to be victims.

[teetime4one]

yikes...is that right?

[cooljess76]

Hmm. Funny you're in a group photo. Interesting. :rolleyes: I love it when offenders claim to be victims.
So having your picture taken makes you an offender? Seems like the only people complaining are people who aren't in SoCal. Personally I'm not fond of the idea of people submiting pics of other peoples cars. And IMO none of the group photos were really even calendar material. Maybe the one with the 4 cars in Malibu, but the others sucked anyway. There's roughly 7 or 8 members that regularly participate in the SoCal meets. Compaired to the 300 or so active members and thousands of members registered on this site, I don't see why it's such a big deal. I'm guilty of not participating, but if it really bothers people I'd be happy to submit an old photo of my car. The problem we have is that there isn't many choices and the choices we do have happen to be lousy. Kind of like the last presidential election. I still haven't voted yet, because I was hoping things would get resolved and Steven would make an exception and let people submit late entries, but if everyone was to vote, we wouldn't have a problem. I suggest that next year we're only allowed to submit our OWN vehicle and perhaps one group photo taken from our OWN camera to use for the cover.

Edit, I just looked at the entries again and noticed a lot of them have been deleted. The group photo taken in malibu sucks, but there WAS a better one. Jaimito79's pic is gone and it was one of my favorites of his hellrot clubsport(RIP). The Oklahomeboys have an excellent group photo and IMO should be on the cover.
"K. Denham 1996 318ti" and clex both have great action shots.

[Marv17]

Hmm. Funny you're in a group photo. Interesting. :rolleyes: I love it when offenders claim to be victims.

yikes...is that right?

oh.... dont be a lil b*tch buddy. cry to someone else. btw for ur INFO i didnt submit that pic or any other pic for that matter so if u better watch out how u talk bro. cuz im a neutral kind of guy, im pretty laid back unlike u that has a st*ck up ur a$$. sheesh. what a whiner. and im the one that agreed for having steven choose the calendar pics. for that matter i care less who "wins" and get in it. its just a freakin' calendar. i thought this site is to show support and help each other out and compliment on each other's cars. but lately i just hear bickering and whining and complaining. arent u all grown adults (mojority)?? or just immature ppl?
steven just pick it and end this non-sense. next year, just gotta lay down some stricter rules that everyone has to follow no matter what.

edit: oh and btw way larryn, i just looked at the pics and im not even in one of them. so look before you start speaking. i wasnt even at those meets anyhow.... thats all i have to say. dip ****....

[kelso]

cool, so it looks like im in? and am i also september or are the months not chosen yet? cause thats my bday month so just weird coincidence my pic is number 9
as far as other pics, i really liked the blue one going into the corner and the rear shot of the hellrot. i dont know why but those 2 kind of stuck out to me...

[cali-ti]

arent u all grown adults (mojority)?? or just immature ppl?
ehhh ... http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3705&highlight=demographics

:)

[1996 328ti]

Oh here we go again. :mad:


cool, so it looks like im in? and am i also september or are the months not chosen yet? cause thats my bday month so just weird coincidence my pic is number 9
as far as other pics, i really liked the blue one going into the corner and the rear shot of the hellrot. i dont know why but those 2 kind of stuck out to me...I'm not sure yet of the pictures. I just wanted to start the process. In the past I've put pictures on people's birthdays.

[larryn]

LOL. Marv, Look who's whining and trying (yet failing) to be an e-thug? I meant that you were complaining about complainers. Pot calling the kettle?

As I said, group photos encourage stacked votes, which is wrong. Why even have voting if somebody will submit a pic with 8 cars in it, and all of those members automatically will vote for themselves. Btw, I'm not "fighting for my pic" either, because my ride is absent as well. I was talking about fairness.

It sucks that because of those poeple, our votes do not count. The next best thing is for Steven to choose the pictures, after the voting was tainted (for two voting rounds!).

[DustenT]

oh.... dont be a lil b*tch buddy. cry to someone else. btw for ur INFO i didnt submit that pic or any other pic for that matter so if u better watch out how u talk bro. cuz im a neutral kind of guy, im pretty laid back unlike u that has a st*ck up ur a$$. sheesh. what a whiner. and im the one that agreed for having steven choose the calendar pics. for that matter i care less who "wins" and get in it. its just a freakin' calendar. i thought this site is to show support and help each other out and compliment on each other's cars. but lately i just hear bickering and whining and complaining. arent u all grown adults (mojority)?? or just immature ppl?
steven just pick it and end this non-sense. next year, just gotta lay down some stricter rules that everyone has to follow no matter what.

edit: oh and btw way larryn, i just looked at the pics and im not even in one of them. so look before you start speaking. i wasnt even at those meets anyhow.... thats all i have to say. dip ****....

Nice. It's hard to take a post like this serious when you have to read it 3 times to understand what it means. Insults mean more when you can understand them, just a tip.

Can you tell it's a full moon? Seems like everyone's got antsies in their pantsies.

Hopefully you guys can pull it together and make it work next year.

[Philly]

wow... c'mon ladies, ease up on the drama...

Im super glad I never ended up submitting anything... this is just sad and im glad im taking no part in it...
last years went awesome and smooth and some great pics made it to the calendar...
this year, i havn't even had the ambition to vote on any submissions... cause 95% of them are sad sad sad...

IMO, scrap the crap we have now... give everyone a week or 2 to submit another picture the right way (or, not at all) and then give another 2 weeks for PROPER voting...then assemble the calendar towards the end of november or early december... at this rate, with the caliber of the photos, im not even considering a purchase, as much as id like to show support...

[DustenT]

IMO, scrap the crap we have now... give everyone a week or 2 to submit another picture the right way (or, not at all) and then give another 2 weeks for PROPER voting...then assemble the calendar towards the end of november or early december... at this rate, with the caliber of the photos, im not even considering a purchase, as much as id like to show support...

I agree, most of the pics that will likely make it in are not calendar caliber, mostly because none of them include my car. :tongue:

[cooljess76]

wow... c'mon ladies, ease up on the drama...

Im super glad I never ended up submitting anything... this is just sad and im glad im taking no part in it...
last years went awesome and smooth and some great pics made it to the calendar...
this year, i havn't even had the ambition to vote on any submissions... cause 95% of them are sad sad sad...

IMO, scrap the crap we have now... give everyone a week or 2 to submit another picture the right way (or, not at all) and then give another 2 weeks for PROPER voting...then assemble the calendar towards the end of november or early december... at this rate, with the caliber of the photos, im not even considering a purchase, as much as id like to show support...
Couldn't have said it better myself. Right on! 1 photo per person, of their OWN car. Group photo's should go in a seperate category for voting by Steven or an unbiased group.

[lkwd318ti]

If my picture isn't up to par according to your guys' opinion, sorry :tongue:...
But I do agree that some of the pictures that don't seem like they don't belong in a calendar.
This is MY OPINION, so please, I don't mean to offend anyone.
-For jgrimm's picture, the quality doesn't look all that great on your initial submission, but after pshop, the other guys made it look pretty good. Too bad your wheels were facing the other way.
-For stealthbimmer's picture, it would've been cool if your car wasn't straight up in the middle and you could've showed more of the boat. I know you wanted to show the guns lol, but I think it could've been composed better.
-For Msentme's picture, it's a cool picture, too bad the E46 was a tad bit too much to the left IMO.
-For raym3power's picture, it's just ALL CAR, that's about it lol...
-For Bozola's picture, this one is honestly my favorite out of all the ones that were submitted.
-For my picture, I think I could've positioned my car better so that the pyramid would've been on the left side, and my car on the right. I should've used the correct white balance too to avoid photoshopping the colors.
-For h3-2.1 ti's picture, it would've been cool if you got lower to take the picture.
-For lilblkbmw's picture, you should use a tripod, it's a blurry picture, or totally out of focus.
-For kelso's picture, it's plain, but I like it for some reason hahah...
-For mothman's picture, the cars are out of focus in that pic, would've been cool if they were in focus though.
-for m3_killer's picture (hugo's), the car isn't in focus, it's focused on the dragons instead. Good job using a tripod that time though.
-For jaimito79's picture, you should've taken 1 step back to get the top and bottom of the car (cuts off at the tire in the rear wheel).
Once again this is what I think, you guys can take it however you want to, but I really didn't want to offend anyone.

I do agree about resubmissions with FAIR voting.
If your car is in the pic, you can't vote for that picture, it should be as simple as that.
The person submitting the picture should be of his or own car, OR the person submitting it should be the person who took the picture.
Another idea i could think of is...if you submit a picture, you can't vote.
and the voters should be required to vote on ALL pictures.
RWD_king...
your car is a hot nonsport lol...

-Randy

[Mallard]

i wish i had submitted now :(

but in a way im glad i didnt ;)

[1996 328ti]

i wish i had submitted now :(

but in a way im glad i didnt ;)
I'm sorry I started the whole thing. :mad:

[Bozola]

I tweaked jgrimm's picture and will gladly tweak ALL photos with PSE .

Wow.. .Thx Randy.. I appreciate your comment!

Bozola(Frederic)


-For jgrimm's picture, the quality doesn't look all that great on your initial submission, but after pshop, the other guys made it look pretty good. Too bad your wheels were facing the other way.
-For Bozola's picture, this one is honestly my favorite out of all the ones that were submitted.

-Randy

[Marv17]

steven. u shouldnt feel sry at all. this year it sounds like it got out of hand and not too well organized, cant really judge by much since its my first year on the forum, but im just saying from what i read and hear. the calendar is a great way of having ppl creating a way to show off their Ti's and what they've done, cuz im pretty sure even single last guy here, and ladies, are proud of their own Ti. it shows who they are since every car has been altered to one's personality. and of course we all dont have mad photoshop skills like some ppl on this forum. props to you who does cuz damn i can barely do anything on it. lol. i just think we can all learn and change things from this sadden complex experience.
and i didnt mean to offend anyone on here... btw. my apologies. just angers me how lil things can get out of hand.
just tell me when i can get one tho :-D

[DustenT]

steven. u shouldnt feel sry at all. this year it sounds like it got out of hand and not too well organized

This isn't true, in the past years it was organized the same way. The only difference is that in the previous years people didn't cheat. It's not on Steven to build a voting system that people can't cheat, it's up to 318ti.org members to use some common sense and not cheat, or organize votes.

[lazoh]

This isn't true, in the past years it was organized the same way. The only difference is that in the previous years people didn't cheat. It's not on Steven to build a voting system that people can't cheat, it's up to 318ti.org members to use some common sense and not cheat, or organize votes.

I would not call it "cheating", I call it "BIAS" votes from both ends and its sad to write "BOTH ENDS" because there should only be "ONE END" = OUR CARS!

[larryn]

In a corporate world, swaying groups of votes using the same methodology is called a Hostile Takeover. Although it's not "cheating", it's certainly considered not playing well with others, and does nothing to promote "community values".

[lazoh]

In a corporate world, swaying groups of votes using the same methodology is called a Hostile Takeover. Although it's not "cheating", it's certainly considered not playing well with others, and does nothing to promote "community values".

+1

[Philly]

If re-opening to 'proper' submissions and 'proper' voting is not an option this late in the game... IMHO only, scrap the entire calendar for this year... I really really wanted one, but not if it shapes up on the path its going... Its funny that a few people ruin it for the rest of us.

Whatever you feel Steven, but id just hate to see this continue like this and then for you to dump your money into getting "XX" amount of caldendars, and only selling a handful and then being stuck with "XX" amount of crappy calendars with no one to buy them...

This calendar is suppose to showcase the 318ti... and the website... If we put out a poor product (in this case, a calendar) ... well, ill let you guys drum up your own conclusions.

FWIW, i know you like to get it out this time of year for people are Xmas time... but personally, id rather see a nice calendar produced and not having it for Xmas, than getting a junky one before...

I don't know, I think Im letting this bother me way too much... lol

[Rhys]

Personally it may well be that we give it a miss this year - disappointing for some? Maybe, but it seams to have gone from bad to worse - that's my opinion as I read this thread. It's so near December, Christmas is nearly upon us and another year draws to a close..

Why not put this behind us and concentrate on next years, gives us more time to arrange how it's going to be judged and what criteria the final images should follow. Then by April at the latest a gallery could be opened for entries (one per person) which can be edited/changed up to a cut off point say around the end of September so entries can be chosen in whatever way is deemed fair.

I did post this thread in an Amateur Photography forum and it got one reply..

The pics: About 2 or 3 I'd have entered into the competition if I was sitting with them all, the rest out of focus, bits protruding, etc. Heck some I would have put in the "try xyz next time" bucket that's overflowing in my pc .

The forum/voting, well, you get that, but it looks like someone and their pals are trying to skew it. Personally I'd just forget about the calendar this year, certainly not 12 pics that I'd want on the wall even though I'm not heavily into cars, I appreciate a good shot of a car like any other photograph...


Anyways, that's just me. I'm not fussed if mine is used or not if the calendar is going ahead. I'd rather have a bit more time and do it properly for next time (was a bit late in doing it this year)

[adamud]

I would not call it "cheating", I call it "BIAS" votes from both ends and its sad to write "BOTH ENDS" because there should only be "ONE END" = OUR CARS!

So you don't think a certain someones car in four different pictures posted by other members and himself is not cheating...

I agree with Dustent, that its not Steven's fault for people to take advantage of such easy and simple rules.

[cooljess76]

I don't think it's fair, but whatever. I mean, how would you like to buy a calendar with the same car on 4 different pages. Heck I guess I could have took 400 pictures of my car and then asked 400 different members to submit them for me. See where that could be considered an unfair advantage? As for the rating system, well thats another story. rating your photos high and everyone elses low is unfair. If a photo deserves a 10 it should get a 10. If it deserves a 1 it should get a 1.

Personally I think that is where the thing got messed up. Even though there wasn't problems in the past, it's still a bad system of judging. I think every member who wishes to vote should just pick 12 of their favorite photos in no particular order. Then you count the number of times each photo was picked, and the 12 with the most picks go in the calendar. Just seems easier IMO, then you wouldn't even have a problem. Perhaps you could number the photos 1-XXXX, then have each member select 12 #'s. Count how many times each # was selected and there you have it.

[lazoh]

So you don't think a certain someones car in four different pictures posted by other members and himself is not cheating...

I agree with Dustent, that its not Steven's fault for people to take advantage of such easy and simple rules.

No rules were broken, Steven can be asked this question. Bottom line to this!!!!!....a lot of you don't like HuGo and that is why this is an issue. I however get the feeling that a lot of you guys are also being bias agains the SOCAL people, sad if you ask me but I bet you that I will get a negative response to this post which will prove my point.

Let Steve decide what he wants and be done with it.

[lazoh]

the bias lays within the socal group and the way the votes were conducted (schemed)..
If you guys want your cars in a calendar so ****ing bad, make your own calendar... I think some of you are getting too much sun.

theres 4 pics with Hugo's car... thats so god damn stupid, it doesn't even need explanation.

and FWIW, Hugo himself is NOT the issue, the fact his car had the possibilty of showing up 4 times in one calendar, IS THE ISSUE....

and the 'no rules were broken' remark... what are you, a child? Does it really need to be spelled out that much to get the point across?

how stupid must you be to understand that means "1 photo per member"..
which read half-intelligently and with little use of common sense, reads 1 photo per car

your an idiot....
/discussion

Don't direspect me as I did not disrespect you or anyone else, calling me stupid or an idiot.......is not called for!!!!

For your information....Steve was asked if other members can post other members car and he agreed, or else he would have disqualified the other 3 pictures of HuGo.

In regards to having our own calendar, I have enough money to make 1,000 copies with HuGo's car and have them delivered to your house. That is not the point here, the point is picking a fight over whatever we do here in SOCAL. I'd had enough of this and I will not comment or respond back since you are now insulting me and once again it was not called for!!!


Steve, please closed this thread unless you feel that a calendar will be made for this year.

[Marv17]

wow....

[jgrimm]

I don't know Hugo, but all I know is that his car looks kick ass and I Give his pic the thumbs up! So if theiris not going to be a printed calendar could there be a possibility for a hypothetical calendar to be made for us to download or something? I just wanna see what was picked by the calendar starter guy...haha..... sorry can't remember the name.

[1996 328ti]

For your information....Steve was asked if other members can post other members car and he agreed, or else he would have disqualified the other 3 pictures of HuGo.That is true. I got tired of the whining. I did say others could post the same car. I also believe I said that I wouldn't put the same car in more than once.

Anyone can go to cafepress.com to make a calendar.
The money that I end end making goes to pay for the few calendars that I buy. It's not that much.

There seems to be so much freakin' drama when it concerns anything with the SoCal group.

[saintse36]

I know Lazoh personal he cant make 1000 copies but more like 10,000 copies and ship them persoanl. But all in all it just a calender that will hang on your wall of you office or your garage. So but all bs aside and just give props for peoples rides that all peace i am out

Don't direspect me as I did not disrespect you or anyone else, calling me stupid or an idiot.......is not called for!!!!

For your information....Steve was asked if other members can post other members car and he agreed, or else he would have disqualified the other 3 pictures of HuGo.

In regards to having our own calendar, I have enough money to make 1,000 copies with HuGo's car and have them delivered to your house. That is not the point here, the point is picking a fight over whatever we do here in SOCAL. I'd had enough of this and I will not comment or respond back since you are now insulting me and once again it was not called for!!!


Steve, please closed this thread unless you feel that a calendar will be made for this year.

[Rhys]

Is this getting a bit silly now, or is this only me thinking this?

How many regular members post on this forum, how many people entered a pic. is there any correlation between the two? I'm surprised there hasn't been more entries.
I wouldn't say I'm a regular poster in this respect as I'm in a minority group being from the UK.

[tol4o]

Steve, just make the Cali guys separate calendar with only their car, this way they will be happy and they will stop lower other pictures votes.
Look at my picture, all of the low votes come from cali guys and I am second to last. My picture or car is not pefect but I think that most of you would give it around 5 points... but who am I? some guy from MA that nobody knows. This is a popularity contest which is not fair. I don't care that my car will not make to the calendar, the point is that the voting should be fair-minded.

[ATF]

All I can do is laugh when I read this thread. I don't even care about the calendar anymore, it's like watching a bad soap.. Wait, there's no such thing as a good soap, I think you get the picture.

[1996 328ti]

Is this getting a bit silly now, or is this only me thinking this?Not silly but sad.

[Rhys]

Not silly but sad.

..well, I didn't want to say..

[Philly]

this place is slowly going down the crapper, this is just a small example.

im embarassed i even threw in my hotheaded $.02 ... oh well.

[elchicano318ti]

well its done we cant change the things people have done lets just get it over with and focus our attention in other things. We learn from our mistakes so next years calender will be different and better:rolleyes:

[cooljess76]

well its done we cant change the things people have done lets just get it over with and focus our attention in other things. We learn from our mistakes so next years calender will be different and better:rolleyes:
Dude, you're the man! Well said.:smile:

[Marv17]

well its done we cant change the things people have done lets just get it over with and focus our attention in other things. We learn from our mistakes so next years calender will be different and better:rolleyes:

Dude, you're the man! Well said.:smile:

yes yes....

+1

[kelso]

so...you guys done yet? can we still go ahead with this years calander now? no more drama mama's?
oh and whoever it was that commented all 12 calander picsi agree with you on most of what you said. but even last years calander pictures werent all the great of quality to be honest. not bad, but you can tell most pics were by amatuers. but i still need a calander for 2008 and i want to have 318ti's on my wall again.

[Marv17]

so...you guys done yet? can we still go ahead with this years calander now? .

i dunno. u need to ask the others on that one.

[1996 328ti]

We want to go ahead with the calendar.
Please contact Bozola if you are in the 12 picked.
http://www.318ti.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=818

[Marv17]

i like those that were selected. now how much? and where to send payment?

[elchicano318ti]

i like those that were selected. now how much? and where to send payment?

haha isnt a little to early to be sending your money rite now

[1996 328ti]

It will be through cafepress.com.

[Bozola]

Please send me a PM so that you can mail me your high rez picture.

Also include your name and year of your car for the calendar.

[lkwd318ti]

PM sent

[elchicano318ti]

I will just like to say congrats to all those who made it. Even though there was so drama, I hope in the end the calender comes out alright. Even though many said they were not going to purchase it I'm still going to, because it's a calender about Ti's better than the ones i usually get :biggrin: So yea thats all i gotta say.

[thesk8nmidget]

i will as well still be purchasing it!

but i want another calendar to so i will get one for the garage or my room and one for the kitchen/living room

[Bozola]

2 out of 12 so far.

[Bozola]

I now have 3 pictures... Check your PMs

[robcarync]

Oh I can't wait....too bad I completely disappeared for a while and missed the dead line. Ohhh well I'm still buying a few!

[cali-ti]

HOLY CRAP! it's rob!

[Bozola]

4 out of 12. come on people!

[H3_2.1-ti]

Who's missing?

[Bozola]

ok.. 1/2 way there!

[Bozola]

The last 5 out of 12.

[thesk8nmidget]

hooray!

[H3_2.1-ti]

How's the calendar coming along?

[Bozola]

Slow
Still need 2 pics

[lkwd318ti]

I wonder who's missing...

[larryn]

It's been two weeks since the "winners" were notified (11/7). Plenty of time to respond. Why not pick two replacements? It's going to take time to have Cafe Press make these things, and I'm sure those of us wanting calendars do not want them in February.

[thesk8nmidget]

It's been two weeks since the "winners" were notified (11/7). Plenty of time to respond. Why not pick two replacements? It's going to take time to have Cafe Press make these things, and I'm sure those of us wanting calendars do not want them in February.

i agree! lets move on to new people if they dont send in pics within a few days

[Marv17]

It's been two weeks since the "winners" were notified (11/7). Plenty of time to respond. Why not pick two replacements? It's going to take time to have Cafe Press make these things, and I'm sure those of us wanting calendars do not want them in February.

i agree! lets move on to new people if they dont send in pics within a few days

yes yes.. +1
they had plenty of time and knew what to do once they were chosen for the calendar. wouldnt want to have the calendar come out late (delayed)... since i want a copy :-D

[thesk8nmidget]

ya i am looking forward to this calendar and dont want it to be late

[1996 328ti]

Maybe we need to revisit some of the other photos then.
One restriction, no car gets selected twice.
For the cover we can use the photo from Iraq.

[thesk8nmidget]

Maybe we need to revisit some of the other photos then.
One restriction, no car gets selected twice.
For the cover we can use the photo from Iraq.

sounds good, should we rate the pictures again or how will we decide the other 2?

[Marv17]

sounds good, should we rate the pictures again or how will we decide the other 2?

in my opinion i dont think we should rate them again. it'd most likely create a problem like that. cuz then everyone will vote differently from the original votes. just pick the next two runner-ups. less time and easiest. or just have steve pick his favorites....

[thesk8nmidget]

in my opinion i dont think we should rate them again. it'd most likely create a problem like that. cuz then everyone will vote differently from the original votes. just pick the next two runner-ups. less time and easiest. or just have steve pick his favorites....

sounds a lot quicker and fair to me

[elchicano318ti]

in my opinion i dont think we should rate them again. it'd most likely create a problem like that. cuz then everyone will vote differently from the original votes. just pick the next two runner-ups. less time and easiest. or just have steve pick his favorites....

Yeah I agree. Just pick the runners up and get the calender made:biggrin:

[1996 328ti]

in my opinion i dont think we should rate them again. it'd most likely create a problem like that. cuz then everyone will vote differently from the original votes. just pick the next two runner-ups. less time and easiest. or just have steve pick his favorites....It worked two years in a row.
There is no time to vote or rate them again.

[larryn]

It worked two years in a row.
There is no time to vote or rate them again.

Steven, you did a great job selecting the others. Just grab a couple more as replacements, and we'll call it a day. :smile:

[DustenT]

It worked two years in a row.
There is no time to vote or rate them again.

I honestly hope the little turds that ruined this end up buying like 10 copies each. This should NOT have been this much work or drama.

[cali-ti]

just put in pics of you racing your ti for any missing pics steven, everyone loves those shots anyway :)

[1996 328ti]

I liked this one. :biggrin:
http://www.318ti.org/gallery/data/806/medium/GK0R9275.JPG
And
http://www.318ti.org/gallery/data/806/medium/318tis3.jpg

and the cover

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q318/angelitogarary/IMGP00193.jpg

[Marv17]

yes
+1. go with those. :-D

[DustenT]

How old are those girls?

[bmvw]

They're old enough to drive if that's what you're asking! Model releases are on file, so use it in the calendar if it's needed, they'll love it.

[H3_2.1-ti]

Looks good to me. Let's wrap it up and send them to print...

[teetime4one]

i agree...the blonder the better

[Bozola]

I will post the ones that I have by this weekend.

Stay tuned.

[lkwd318ti]

I honestly hope the little turds that ruined this end up buying like 10 copies each. This should NOT have been this much work or drama.

bleh...
agreed with alot of drama regarding this calendar. Steve shouldn't have had to put in so much work for something that worked for the past 2 years.
If I were to choose 2 more, I would've chosen JedzE36/5 with some cropping action and one of the two that Steve chose.

-Randy

[thesk8nmidget]

and the cover

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q318/angelitogarary/IMGP00193.jpg

is that the war option?

or millitary model?

lol

[H3_2.1-ti]

So another week has passed...

[H3_2.1-ti]

And no news...

[1996 328ti]

This is what we have so far.
http://www.cafepress.com/shop318ti.163493201

I have it set to $400 because I don't want anyone to buy it until we have a chance to look it over some more. Hopefully I'll have time to get one sample copy before reducing the price.

I also have individual calendars. 12 months/1 photo.
If anyone wants something added to cafepress, I'd be happy to create another product.
All commission goes right back into the site anyway.

[SDKmann]

Hey I dont know if you've seen it yet steven but I added a shot into my iced ti thread under the edited shots that wasnt in the original post. I personally think its leaps and bounds above the others. I sent it to Bozola but if you havnt already you might want to check it out. I like the one you chose too so it doesnt matter to me, just thought you might want to see it.

[Bozola]

One last pic to go.

[SDKmann]

Did the email go through?

Edit: Nevermind, just got the PM.

[thesk8nmidget]

calendar looks good! cant wait for the price to go down ;)

[kelso]

me likey

[Bozola]

Close now.. really close