4. Strut Bar

[HuGo]

So who else is interested in doing a custom 4 point strut bar? I dont remember how much harold said it will be but its not more than $200. Also, i think harold said the guy wont be back until the beg or end of february. Plenty of time to save up. So who else wants one?

1.) Lazoh
2.) Hugo

[1996 328ti]

What is a 4 point strut bar?
Ties to the towers and chassis?

[HuGo]

What is a 4 point strut bar?
Ties to the towers and chassis?

Pretty much. Its going to look like pie symbol.

[DustenT]

I don't think strut braces really do much on our cars. The x-brace will help you a LOT more than a strut brace will.

[HuGo]

I don't think strut braces really do much on our cars. The x-brace will help you a LOT more than a strut brace will.

True but ppl still buy strut bars anyway. A 4. will be better and itll cost the same so why not :smile:

[ATF]

Who's this guy? Does he do these kinds of things often? It'd be interesting to see if he has any engineering background to ensure it's actually functional and not just for decoration.

Sorry to sound so skeptical, just want to lay out the obvious.

[HuGo]

Who's this guy? Does he do these kinds of things often? It'd be interesting to see if he has any engineering background to ensure it's actually functional and not just for decoration.

Sorry to sound so skeptical, just want to lay out the obvious.

According to lazoh he builds a lot of custom things for race purposes. Like roll cages and stuff like that. Lazoh knows the guy, not me. Lazoh, this is the same guy that did your roll cage right?

[saintse36]

dude the brace is going to cost like 350- 400 each and thats if he feels like makeing them hes really busy with the E30 race cars also i buy one nah i already have one. Hugo do you still want to buy one? I might be selling mine for around 250 maybe i dont know yet

[1996 328ti]

I don't think strut braces really do much on our cars. The x-brace will help you a LOT more than a strut brace will.I can see a brace that ties to the chassis as being useful. Anything else is just eye candy.

[HuGo]

dude the brace is going to cost like 350- 400 each and thats if he feels like makeing them hes really busy with the E30 race cars also i buy one nah i already have one. Hugo do you still want to buy one? I might be selling mine for around 250 maybe i dont know yet

LoL you were going to buy one but decided not to in the same post really quickly. You could have just back spaced :tongue:

Well, i want to talk to harold and the guy first and see what happens.

[lazoh]

This guy only makes custom race fabrications, he is not the guy that di my roll cage but he does a lot of fabrications for Ireland Engineering. He has a 2002 with the 4 point strut brace and according to a few people this type of set-up helps. I hope he comes trough for us since he is very busy and the 4 point is a small job for him at $200.00. I will keep you posted HuGo.

[saintse36]

a man hows the iphone working also i have a small water leak some where on my car need help finding it peace

[CirrusSR22]

I sure hope you guys buy the factory x-brace first, then do this stuff.

[DustenT]

I sure hope you guys buy the factory x-brace first, then do this stuff.

Exactly, the x-brace is the single best suspension mod you can do to any non-vert e36.

[Bobbak]

1.) Lazoh
2.) Hugo
3.) Bobbak

[M3_KILL3R]

not me lol im kinda done with moding the Ti for a long time

[lazoh]

a man hows the iphone working also i have a small water leak some where on my car need help finding it peace

Iphone is working great!! We need to look into the leak in your car, are you going to the meet saturday? And more importantly, are you getting a 4 point strut tower bar?

[lazoh]

Exactly, the x-brace is the single best suspension mod you can do to any non-vert e36.

Thanks for the pointers guys and the x brace is also part of my plans and for the rest of the crew. I just hope this guy can find the time to get it done for us quickly!

I sure hope you guys buy the factory x-brace first, then do this stuff.

[mohaughn]

When is somebody going to come up with a picture of this thing? I'm curious to see how this ties back into the frame to make any kind of major improvements. Kind of hard to commit to something without having any clue of what it looks like, or how it works.

[lazoh]

When is somebody going to come up with a picture of this thing? I'm curious to see how this ties back into the frame to make any kind of major improvements. Kind of hard to commit to something without having any clue of what it looks like, or how it works.

This picture should help you get a visual, keep in mind that this particular example is not what we will get and this one looks weak compared to the design that we are looking at.

[Marv17]

ah. yeah. the ol' 4 point strut bar. hmm... may consider it in the future alone with the x-brace. wonder if your guy can make it look like the one i have or similar style.

[HuGo]

Well let me know lazoh. I have some money to spend.

[saintse36]

I found my leak this morning i am not going to the meet due to the leak on the radiator. I am going to buy a new one it has a large crack in it well i call you today Lazo.

[mohaughn]

This picture should help you get a visual, keep in mind that this particular example is not what we will get and this one looks weak compared to the design that we are looking at.

OK. So what exactly is that connecting to in the front, and how would that increase rigidity? I don't think I've ever seen a strut bar of that type of design on any BMW track cars, and Ireland Engineering doesn't sell anything like that. Really need to know what it connects to at the front.

[Marv17]

believe it connects to the chassis or in a easy term the front bar right under the hood. right above the headlight housing. ill see if i can find a pic to demonstrate.

if i remember right lazoh said it should connect around here:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c93/Mblanco17/My%20318ti/DSC00568b.jpg

[cosmos schwarz]

When is somebody going to come up with a picture of this thing? I'm curious to see how this ties back into the frame to make any kind of major improvements. Kind of hard to commit to something without having any clue of what it looks like, or how it works.

it wont work, not on a road car. completely for show, imo a bit too rice if its not for racing purposes.

[Marv17]

it wont work, not on a road car. completely for show, imo a bit too rice if its not for racing purposes.

hmm... well we'll have to see and find out how well it works or not. one way to find out, right? i may not know much about modifying cars as much as others do on this forum but im sure lazoh's guy knows what he's doing. it should tighten up the body, no? ...he has been working on other car modifications like that b4...
we'll see, we'll see...

[DustenT]

hmm... well we'll have to see and find out how well it works or not. one way to find out, right? i may not know much about modifying cars as much as others do on this forum but im sure lazoh's guy knows what he's doing. it should tighten up the body, no? ...he has been working on other car modifications like that b4...
we'll see, we'll see...

The only thing that will tighten up is the front support bracket, which has nothing to do with your suspension. Waste of time/money going further with this IMO. Like stated above, if IE isn't making/selling one, it probably doesn't do anything. Just my 2 cents, not bashing.

[Marv17]

eh. i respect your opinion dusten so im not going against you or anything. and, well like i said; i dont know much, yet. still learning about how to modify cars good. but if it indeed doesnt do much in the end. at least it'll look nice.

[lazoh]

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, I just hope that the people that stated that does not work or it does nothing have some REAL autocross experience and I state experience I do not mean a driving class with the BMWCCA, Porche, etc. Ireland Engineering does not sell this and that is not what I stated in my post. What I stated in the post is that the shop making the 4 point bar does most of the fabrications for Ireland's race cars.

Going back to the original topic of this thread, I have 3 or 4 people interested in getting this: Lazoh, HuGo, Bobbak & Marv17

[Marv17]

yes sure.
just keep me updated man.

[HuGo]

I cant go wrong with $200 bucks. Ppl still buy a regular strut bar for that cost if not just a little over correct? So well basically get the same thing, with just 2 extra points. Work or not itll work like a regular strut and most likely look nicer with the 2 extra points.

And as you ppl know...i dont care what ppl think, if i like it, im going for it :smile: There things some ppl buy that is completely useless but hey, good for you.

[mohaughn]

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, I just hope that the people that stated that does not work or it does nothing have some REAL autocross experience and I state experience I do not mean a driving class with the BMWCCA, Porche, etc. Ireland Engineering does not sell this and that is not what I stated in my post. What I stated in the post is that the shop making the 4 point bar does most of the fabrications for Ireland's race cars.

Going back to the original topic of this thread, I have 3 or 4 people interested in getting this: Lazoh, HuGo, Bobbak & Marv17


Geezz. Nobody said you said that... I was more so making a point to the effectiveness of this. If it was something that was super effective, and this guy works with Jeff Ireland, it would make sense that it would be for sale.

That bar shown doesn't really look like it would do anything. If you get a picture of what the final product here will look like I'd love to see it. Not really passing judgement as I haven't seen the product.

[HuGo]

:no: