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wolferj-RIP
04-30-2009, 05:02 AM
So I bought a new 1 series start button for a fun little mod, but I cannot find anywhere on the internets a wiring diagram for the 1-series button. It is a 10 pin plug-in. (the Z8 one is only a 4 pin)
Help anyone?
Xenocide
04-30-2009, 01:03 PM
Get a multimeter and start playing.
wolferj-RIP
04-30-2009, 05:23 PM
That's my plan today, was just hoping for a little wiring cheat sheet...
Xenocide
05-01-2009, 09:40 PM
well make one for the rest of us :)
wolferj-RIP
05-01-2009, 11:55 PM
Well no such luck... The 1-series button has no direct electrical contacts and uses micro-amp signals relayed by a magnetic bar position inside the button. It also functions as the engine shut-off as well as start, and the circuitry is integrated...
Long story short, I'm no electrical engineer, so I will have to locate another start button (from a Z8 or S2000) to finish this right. I rigged a simple on/off rocker switch to function as a momentary start button while I find the right button to replace it with.
Pics coming later today...
tiFreak
05-02-2009, 12:48 AM
hope no one breaks into your car before then :lol: there are some universal ones on eBay, maybe you could get one of those
John318ti
05-02-2009, 03:57 AM
Hey James if you get this done you should do a write up on the procedure. I have been thinking about doing it, but don't know if I would be able to pull it off myself...
Maybe I'll start hunting for a Z8 or S2000 button now :smile:
wolferj-RIP
05-02-2009, 04:23 AM
The procedure is not difficult, John and I will take pictures. There are a couple of write-ups out there, but I will do another one here.
And Brendan, the car is safe. The way I wired it still requires the key in the ignition and has a safety feature as well... While I was doing the procedure, I figured out how to bypass the ignition cylinder altogether, but I will not post that in a public forum...
John318ti
05-02-2009, 05:59 AM
The procedure is not difficult, John and I will take pictures. There are a couple of write-ups out there, but I will do another one here.
And Brendan, the car is safe. The way I wired it still requires the key in the ignition and has a safety feature as well... While I was doing the procedure, I figured out how to bypass the ignition cylinder altogether, but I will not post that in a public forum...
Okay thanks James :biggrin: it would definitely have to require the key in the ignition for me to want to even do it. Way to sketchy if anyone could jump in and push a button to start it.
tiFreak
05-02-2009, 10:39 PM
I was thinking you had probably did that, wasn't sure
if you do a write-up I might just do this myself, I know a guy with an E36 M3 with a push button start and it's so cool :biggrin:
Bozola
05-02-2009, 10:57 PM
You could post a request on 1addicts.com
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wolferj-RIP
05-03-2009, 05:29 AM
Frederick, that would be a great idea, but I chose another route. There is no way to utilize the circuitry in the start button as it is far more complex than the e36 was designed for.
So, I disassembled the switch:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll133/wolferj/wednesday/IMG_3066.jpg
removed the circuit board, and utlilzed the button components and fabricated contacts inside...
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll133/wolferj/wednesday/IMG_3079.jpg
Since the way I'm using it is simply as a momentary contact switch, it only required one contact inside.
Then I fussed and cussed and tweaked and glued and drilled and screwed;
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll133/wolferj/wednesday/IMG_3080.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll133/wolferj/wednesday/IMG_3084.jpg
and this is the end result:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll133/wolferj/wednesday/IMG_3082.jpg
And installed;
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll133/wolferj/wednesday/IMG_3086.jpg
tiFreak
05-03-2009, 05:41 AM
looks good, the locations not where I would have chosen, I would have rather had it on the dash somewhere but I'm assuming it's a pain to mount there, still pretty cool
wolferj-RIP
05-03-2009, 06:30 AM
Thanks Pauly...
I had originally planned on mounting it here:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll133/wolferj/wednesday/IMG_3050.jpg
That is where clex2 mounted his Z8 button, and it seemed logical, but I decided otherwise for me...
I always put the key in the ignition, push in the clutch, check the shift knob and make sure the car is in Neutral, then start the car. Where I mounted it is closer to the shifter and hand brake. Also the hand brake is the safety... The start button won't work unless the hand brake is up.
Maverix
05-03-2009, 06:41 AM
Whoa, looks very nice!
But yea I agree with pauly. I would put it somewhere visible.
wolferj-RIP
05-03-2009, 07:39 AM
Boys, boys, boys... It's about function as well as form.
This is where it works best for me...
I took plenty of pics, so I will post a full DIY in the next day or two...
aznlonewolf135
05-10-2009, 09:51 AM
I kinda wanna put a trigger on the gear shifter to start the car...
Maverix
05-12-2009, 03:07 PM
Sounds good. I'll be waiting for the write up.
aznlonewolf135
05-12-2009, 04:19 PM
+1
wolferj-RIP
05-12-2009, 04:32 PM
Sorry, been procrastinating... I'll try to get one up this afternoon/evening
wolferj-RIP
05-13-2009, 08:13 AM
Here is a link to my DIY for this project!
http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26719
Let me know if you have any questions...
jonas
05-13-2009, 01:51 PM
nice write up! i've never seen someone put the starter there but i really like it. It's not to in your face but is in a good spot to hit. good job!
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