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Phil Marx
03-21-2004, 03:04 AM
Just a warning for those who do what I did.

Yesterday afternoon I had to move the '98 ti so the family van could haul five kids to soccer practice. I started it up, moved it over about fifteen feet and shut it off. This morning I went to start it to take my youngest to her soccer game and for at least the first second of cranking all sounded normal, but no start. Subsequent start attempts sounded like either a disengaged starter, or an engine cranking with no plugs or, worse, no compression. I swapped snacks, orange slices, drinks, camera, and folding chairs into the trusty E28 535is and went to the game, my mind running this scenario over and over during the drive. When I returned several hours later same symptoms: engine cranked like it had no compression. Having only me to diagnose the problem and not even being sure at that time if the engine was even turning over, I chalk-marked the serpentine belt, cranked it just enough to make sure the starter was turning the engine, then figured I'd remove the plugs to see if maybe they were just soaked. :idea:

Now this has always been a problem on M50TU, M3, M6, and M5 motors even to the extent that BMW shipped the M cars with "transit" plugs. When I had my own dealership I'd move the inventory in and out of the storage garage every day. I'd usally get a week on an M50 engine if it didn't get driven during the day before having to either take it out and drive the @*#& out of it or clean the plugs. I've never before had a BMW that you couldn't start, move, stop once, and then restart. But I'm warning you now, if you move the ti out of the garage to wash it, let it sit a while and it won't restart; remove the plugs, clean them with carb cleaner, dry 'em off real good, reinstall them and crank the livin' #*&% out of the engine until it starts.

A word to the wise might save a tow bill.

-Phil Marx

1996 328ti
03-21-2004, 03:29 AM
Same thing happened to me. I started the car long enough to pump the brakes after swapping pads. A few hours later I could not maintain idle. I also threw a MAF fault code. I was able to drive as long as I kept the revs up. After about a 1/2 mile the car was fine.

dominguezh
03-21-2004, 06:04 AM
Hmmm ... this happened to me with my 98 740il. I called my service rep at the dealer and he asked me to press on the accelerator until it clicks and hold it there. Then turn the key until the engine kicks in. It took about 6 seconds and then the car turned back on. Freaky but it worked. I asked him why ... he had no answer. : )

Hector

Phil Marx
03-21-2004, 06:04 PM
My guess is WOT switch bypassing lambda allowing more air and less fuel. Whatever works. Never helped on my 2.3L 2002 with dual 45-DCOEs. I just got used to carrying a clean set of plugs.

yeehawbob
09-25-2004, 11:56 PM
Well Guys I dunno what happened! My starter just gave up yesterday after I went to friends place. He is a Honda Mechanic and he owns a Merc E320, so we were talking about the cars. When it came time to go home my starter just quit. All I could hear was clicks. I started the car by letting it roll down the drive way. This morning I tried to start the car and nothing but clicks from the starter, so I tried what DOMINGUEZH had tried with his 740i, and it worked.

It still gives a little hasitation like I have low battery but it starts.

I will look into a new strter though....

eomalley
10-25-2004, 01:50 AM
Same thing happened to my 96 318ti. On Saturday I moved it 15 feet. On Sunday it would not start. I held the accelerator down as Hector described and it fired in a couple of seconds. Thanks for the savings in aggravation and $$.

bimmerboi318
10-25-2004, 03:31 AM
Yeah most cars have a "clear out" mode for starting a flooded engine. Hold the gas pedal wide open when you're starting and it will lean it way out (on chryslers it cuts fuel altogether, not sure on bimmers...)

bucksworld
07-23-2007, 02:14 AM
Well Guys I dunno what happened! My starter just gave up yesterday after I went to friends place. He is a Honda Mechanic and he owns a Merc E320, so we were talking about the cars. When it came time to go home my starter just quit. All I could hear was clicks. I started the car by letting it roll down the drive way. This morning I tried to start the car and nothing but clicks from the starter, so I tried what DOMINGUEZH had tried with his 740i, and it worked.

It still gives a little hasitation like I have low battery but it starts.

I will look into a new strter though....

Did u ever get the new starter?

b.u.ti-ful
11-12-2007, 03:54 PM
Thanks to this thread I got mine going after moving my car 15 feet yesterday and having the starting problem.

Just cranked the sucker with the pedal down.

Takes a while - glad I have a new battery!

thesk8nmidget
11-12-2007, 04:15 PM
good info to know! thanks for bringing back the old thread i will always have to keep this in mind!