marbles

[precisiongrafx]

two days ago my 1.9l starting making a sound like theres marbles in the engine i thought maybe a pully had a loose nut but didnt find any thing anyone ever have this problem there are no mods to the motor at all completely stock and the oil is changed every 3000 there are 73000 total mileson the car any help would be great looked on the tis cd and found nothing in the trouble shooting area that would decribe this sound

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thanks in advance for any input

[1996 328ti]

Could be the VANOS. My ti does that too once in a while.
Does it quite down after you drive a little while.
My mechanic tells me it is because the oil needs to recirculate first.

[precisiongrafx]

its just been a constant loud ticking thats why i thought something might be loose its driving me crazy doesnt quite down at all and the noise gets louder as i bring the up rpms

[1996 328ti]

Low on oil? It's not a valve tap?

[precisiongrafx]

oil is changed like clock work took a long screw driver stuck my ear on it and from what i hear it sounds like the sound is coming from throttle cable area just not sure exactly were

[J!m]

I have a motor in Enfield CT if you want it. I'll be back up there at Easter. Simsbury is just the other sie of the airport, about 10 miles from my house/shop.

Call me at 516-242-3933 if interested. Perhaps I can diagnose it for you that weekend as well?? Could be a valve train part, particularly if you hear noise from the throttle body (which makes no sense at all)...

[precisiongrafx]

J!M replaced the water pump thermostat and the belts and hoses today still sounds like marbles any other thoughts on this would be a great help its driving me crazy

[grail]

Could be the VANOS. My ti does that too once in a while.
Does it quite down after you drive a little while.
My mechanic tells me it is because the oil needs to recirculate first.

the 1.9 doesn't have vanos as far as i know.only the 6 cylinders.

[Jared]

Could be the VANOS. My ti does that too once in a while.
Does it quite down after you drive a little while.
My mechanic tells me it is because the oil needs to recirculate first.

the 1.9 doesn't have vanos as far as i know.only the 6 cylinders.

That's what I thought too...

[J!m]

I'm really stumped now. The sound SOUNDED like a water pump, and was coming from the front of the block in that area.

Steve: Where does the VANOS 'rattle' eminate from on your car? I'm leaning toward timing chain and/or tensioner now, but this is pretty unlikely. Does it have a oil-pressure pump-up tensioner like the old Land-Rover does? When that gets problems, it can rattle a bit. The LR tensioner has a toothed piece, so as pressure drops, the tensioner can only move back a small amount.

P.G.: I'm sorry I failed you! I was certain that was the sorce of the noise.

On the bright side: those original factory hoses were just waiting to fail. As was that belt...

[precisiongrafx]

ya the belts and hoses were in need of replacement that is the bright side and i did notice the water pump fins were bent so i was sure that was the sound but nope i think im just gonna run this motor till its dead and just do the swap

[J!m]

Out of curiosity: how did the INSIDE of those hoses look? Were they all cracked near the ends?

I can't believe they were original date-stamped factory hoses STILL! And those belts were SCARY...

You certainly won't regret the swap, as you had a small taste of my (cold engine) car.

I'm really curious to know what that sound is from...

[precisiongrafx]

ya the hoses were real ruff looking as far as the swap i have some good side jobs coming up in the near future so hopefully before the end of summer i can do this once i know i will be getting the cash i will have to get your book of knowledge to help guide me and yes that small taste of the cold motor run we took has sold me man the power is nice

[J!m]

Absolute power corrupts- absolutely... :twisted: