Club sport owners, what is your serial number?

[tastade]

Trying to find a serial number range,

Mine is: wbacg5328sam53599

I saw someone else was selling theirs and it was: wbacg5321sam53492

So only 107 different. And a 5321 instead of a 5328, different option?

Anyway, Car and Driver said only 200 were made. Was just trying to find some evidence to back it up.

Thanks,

Eric

[tastade]

Trying to find a serial number range,

Mine is: wbacg5328sam53599

I saw someone else was selling theirs and it was: wbacg5321sam53492

So only 107 different. And a 5321 instead of a 5328, different option?

Anyway, Car and Driver said only 200 were made. Was just trying to find some evidence to back it up.

Thanks,

Eric

I just did a search on google and came back with these.
WBACG5328SAM53618
WBACG5328SAM53621
WBACG5327SAM53593

those 5 are within 129 of each other, if there are only 200, that is 2.5% of them. So it seems like the range for the club sport serial numbers is between roughly 53450 and 53650.

[ClubSport]

WBACG5325SAM53544 here.

[tastade]

My club sport was made in 10/1995, which by US standards would technically make it a 96. Car and Driver stated they released it just before the close of the year. The title on my car still says 1995, I imagine BMW goes by a fiscal year that starts Jan 1st. Anyway, when were your club sports made? I think think most were made late in the year.

For the CS, CandD lists the performance as:
$25,850
138hp@6000
129lb-ft@4500
2840 lb
0-60: 8.5 sec
0-100: 28.2 sec
1/4: 16.5@82
116 MPH (govener limited)
braking 70-0: 166 ft
300 ft skid: 0.85 g
observed mpg: 25

Not bad. They loved the car. They said that there are many faster cars, but this one makes you feel like a pro at more sensible speeds. They loved how it drove, and said it was definitely worth the $3000 premium. What impresses me is that braking, 166 ft from 70 is fast for any car.

[4WDrift]

Mine is in there also. :D

[clex2]

Let's see if we can't get a few more numbers and figure this out.

Mine is WBACG5328SAM53540

[tastade]

OK, so we have:

WBACG532xSAM53yyy

And for x we have values of, 1, 5, 7 or 8 so far,
and for yyy we have 492, 540, 544, 593, 599, 618, 621 and a "mine is in there also"
So the mean value is 572 with a standard deviation of 48 with
This is saying about 2% will have a value of less than 472, or about 2% will have a value of more than 672. Assuming we have a normal distribution of samples. That is reasonable considering C&D stated that there were 200 made.
95% confident the mean is within the range of 537 to 608.

I would put a range of about WBACG532xSAM53472 to 53672 give or take a few in either direction.

[dave45056]

Just reading thru some old stuff on here. Wondering if anyone has done a more comprehensive study on the Club Sport. My VIN ends is 53646. So it could be one of the last ones?

[tastade]

I don't think anyone else has looked into it, but yours is definitely one of the later units. It also helps support the given data. That gives 492, 540, 544, 593, 599, 618, 621, and 646 so the new mean is 582. That puts the 492 as one of the first units made and the 646 as one of the later units made. The standard deviation is now 52. Looking at the normal distribution and calculating the cumulative distribution number 646 would have 10% of the club sports numbered higher and 90% numbered less. The range now looks like it is 482 to 682 (but this could change with new numbers discovered. The statistics still point to about 200 being made (but less than 300). We are also 99% confident that the mean is in the range of 582 +/- 50 (edit, misinterpreted my statistics)

[dave45056]

oh I forgot to mention my x number. It is 2

[clubsport95]

My vin is WBACG5324SAM53695 BUILD DATE IS 10/95 ANY OTHER?

[m3outtanowhere]

WBACG5321SAM53511 BUILT 09/95 ON THE PLAQUE...BUT MY DEALER SPEC SHEET SAYS 10/95???

[tastade]

I notice the spread is now 203, the low number being 492 and the high number being 695. Either they didn't use all the numbers in the range, or they did make more than 200. Interesting.

I found another on google, 562.

It looks for sure that the range is 200, but no more than 300 club sports made.

[inlacal]

I really am not 100% sure, but isn't it just M-tech bumper covers/moldings/wheels and interior (maybe springs) which sets the CS apart from the rest of our Ti's?

Or did I just describe the Sport Package and not the CS?

[m3outtanowhere]

I really am not 100% sure, but isn't it just M-tech bumper covers/moldings/wheels and interior (maybe springs) which sets the CS apart from the rest of our Ti's?

Or did I just describe the Sport Package and not the CS?
Limited Slip Diff., Red MIllipoint interior, Only jet black or hellrot red. 16 inch rims, Motorsport suspension, and a few other little details. Mine has an options delete like tilt, cruise, radio...ect. only made between august and october of 1995 (still o.b.d.1), 250-300 built. Only special order.

[inlacal]

Limited Slip Diff., Red MIllipoint interior, Only jet black or hellrot red. 16 inch rims, Motorsport suspension, and a few other little details. Mine has an options delete like tilt, cruise, radio...ect. only made between august and october of 1995 (still o.b.d.1), 250-300 built. Only special order.

Does anyone know of anyone selling one?

Chris

[clubsport95]

I'd sell mine for 5,000

[m3outtanowhere]

ide sell mine too. maybe...pm me

[thesk8nmidget]

I notice the spread is now 203, the low number being 492 and the high number being 695. Either they didn't use all the numbers in the range, or they did make more than 200. Interesting.

I found another on google, 562.

It looks for sure that the range is 200, but no more than 300 club sports made.


so i have a new low number.. possibly the first club sport built???
490
red with no sunroof! 1 of 3

so a new low of 490-695

[thesk8nmidget]

OK, so we have:

WBACG532xSAM53yyy

And for x we have values of, 1, 5, 7 or 8 so far,
and for yyy we have 492, 540, 544, 593, 599, 618, 621 and a "mine is in there also"
.


EDIT:
my bad it was actually an 8 not a 9 so forget i said anything andout the x value lol

[Borg561]

Someone also mentioned that their "x" number was two. I know most (or is it all) 17-digit VINs have a check digit. With 6 different numbers for that position, I'd guess that might be a check digit.

Edit: Just did a quick search and I was right. The 9th digit in a 17-digit VIN is a check digit, which helps programs ensure the VIN was entered accurately.

Justin

[thesk8nmidget]

any other club sport owners wanna chime in?

[cg318ti]

mines is WBACG5329sam53594 10/95 prod. date

[thesk8nmidget]

nice thanks

[thesk8nmidget]

got another from a member on here

AM53650

[thesk8nmidget]

heres more

The last seven digits of the VIN are: AM53650
I have a copy of the Sales Operations Dealer Bulletin that contains the Club Sport Ordering Guide. It advised that 400 were available for firm order, with a SOP(Start Of Production) in September/October(mine was built in October). The Guide refers to the Club Sport package as Model Code 9530. It states that there were three options available:
Limited Slip (Code 209) $580
Electric Sunroof (Code 401) $1200
Premium Audio System (Code 676) $550
I have my original window sticker, and it shows that the Club Sport package itself cost $3050; with destination charge($570) the MSRP on my car was $24650.
There's a reason why very few Club Sports were built without sunroofs. A few days after my order was placed, my salesperson(Barbara Neuerman) was informed by Munich that ALL Club Sports were going to be built with sunroofs(and cost $1200 more, of course). I told Barbara that I really didn't want it if I had to take the sunroof. Barbara pulled some strings and ended up having my car and another Hellrot Club Sport built without sunroofs. I'd love to pick up the heated seat kit.

[Whiplash]

heres more
Originally Posted by B Taylor
The last seven digits of the VIN are: AM53650
I have a copy of the Sales Operations Dealer Bulletin that contains the Club Sport Ordering Guide. It advised that 400 were available for firm order, with a SOP(Start Of Production) in September/October(mine was built in October). The Guide refers to the Club Sport package as Model Code 9530. It states that there were three options available:
Limited Slip (Code 209) $580
Electric Sunroof (Code 401) $1200
Premium Audio System (Code 676) $550
I have my original window sticker, and it shows that the Club Sport package itself cost $3050; with destination charge($570) the MSRP on my car was $24650.
There's a reason why very few Club Sports were built without sunroofs. A few days after my order was placed, my salesperson(Barbara Neuerman) was informed by Munich that ALL Club Sports were going to be built with sunroofs(and cost $1200 more, of course). I told Barbara that I really didn't want it if I had to take the sunroof. Barbara pulled some strings and ended up having my car and another Hellrot Club Sport built without sunroofs. I'd love to pick up the heated seat kit.


OK, so I'm a little late to this party but that's about the norm for me...

My VIN is WBACG5321SAM53539. It's Hellrot and also has NO sunroof. Oddly enough, I bought mine new from Barbara Neuerman as well. I wonder if mine was the other Hellrot without sunroof referenced above?

I still have my original window sticker as well, I need to dig it out and see what it says.

[thesk8nmidget]

really?

very nice to know! whiplash what part of houston are you from? your name isnt by any chance dan is it?

[Borg561]

So wait a second. B Taylor, Whiplash and Josh all have Hellrot Club Sports without a sunroof, but there's also a black one without sunroof as well? Looks like you might need to update your sig Josh. Interesting info you got though Josh. It's always great to be able to hear that kind of stuff from original owners.

Justin

[thesk8nmidget]

yep me, bailiy, dan baker, chris, and then the solo black one without s sunroof

i cant remember the black ones username.

but so far yes there are 5

[HoJo]

WBACG5323SAM53574

9/95 production
sunroof
black

[thesk8nmidget]

thanks!

[318ticlubsport]

I know this discussion is a little out of date, but i seem to have stumbled on a 318ti Club Sport that i bought from a loan company that repoed it from its previous owner. The last 7 of my vin is am53717 production date 10/95.

[SewickleyBMW]

AM53701 here. Wonder if I have the last one ever made.

P.S. just verified I'm not, see below.

[quote=viking79;9941954]Sorry I am replying to such an old thread, but I thought it was important for future research. I have done a collection of Club Sport serial numbers over at 318ti.org and I found that they are basically in the range of AM534xx to 6xx (the sample range is from AM53492 to AM53695).

318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3007

quote]

AM53460 to AM53731 is the production range. That's 271 units "on the books". I've heard that there were a few special orders that were produced in early Novemeber, but I haven't been able to verify any VIN #'s to back that up.


from http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=15844263&posted=1#post15844263

[BimmerBum]

WBACG5321SAM53623 Black, No Sunroof, M50tu swap, and looking for any previous owners.

and...

We have a red one in the family with a sunroof. I just fired off an email to get that vin. I will edit this post when I get a reply.

I know I'm real late to the program but this is a good thread to keep adding to.

[318318]

I now have 53490, Josh's neglected old car, poor thing. Interesting to hear that old old friends, Bailey, and also Dan and Val still have theirs....

vince
BMWCCA 84561

[Bluebimma]

VIN: WBACG5323SAM53719
Year: 1995
Make: BMW
Model: 3-Series 318ti
Style/Body: Hatchback 2D
Class: Upscale - Near Luxury
Engine: 1.8L I4 EFI
Country of Assembly: Germany
Vehicle Age: 14 year(s)
Calculated Owners: 5
Last Reported
Odometer Reading: 197,314

[maukm3]

Black vin# 53617

[Borg561]

Digging up an old thread, sorry (and yes, it's been a long time since I've been here). Just found one of the black, no sunroof cars for sale. VIN ends in AM53624. Depending on what happens with the insurance company on my car, it may be in my driveway (figuratively, since I park on the street) by the end of the month.

Justin

[jca]

Are all ti's with red millipoint interiors, Clubsports?

[1996 328ti]

Are all ti's with red millipoint interiors, Clubsports?I would say, not necessarily.
Of course a CS needs to be a 1995 in Bright Red or Jet Black for starters.

Added: I found a classified ad here for 1998 ti with Red Millpoint

http://www.318ti.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-25948.html

[roadrash]

I would say, not necessarily.
I would say "absolutely not."

All Club Sports have Millpoint Red interior, but the inverse is not true.

EDIT:
Added: I found a classified ad here for 1998 ti with Red Millpoint
http://www.318ti.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-25948.html
Actually, that ad is for ONLY a Millpoint Red interior interior, and not for a whole car.

[Platanos]

Mine is AM53709

So our current list is from AM53490 to AM5719

So thats 229 Clubsports in 1995 only. So far...

[SewickleyBMW]

I'm really kind of missing AM53701. I let her go about 1 1/2 years ago. She was headed off to a new life in Michigan. Now I think the E36M3 has to go soon as well. :frown:

[dnav]

Mine is AM53709

So our current list is from AM53490 to AM5719

So thats 229 Clubsports in 1995 only. So far...

Wildcard! am53476 here...

[EricJ]

AM53682
Purchased from the original owner a week ago.

Black '95 Club Sport (10/85)
174k miles
Sunroof
No Cruise Control
AM/FM w/ 6 disk changer in back

Original wheels 16x7 5 spoke

PO mods:
Bilstein HDs - 5 years ago
K&N cone, but also had the original air box.
Aftermarket Cat-Back
Short throw shifter

Already Fixed - drivers window (temporary), Steering wheel lock, Hatch struts, jacking pads replaced, bled/burped coolant, restored air box w/ new filter, tied down battery (too big for cover)

To be fixed - Oil filter housing (gasket/bushing/filter), Brake overhaul (rotors/pads/shoes/hardware/fluid), ABS sensor connector, Plugs, wires, CCVV, belts, fuel filter, diff & tranny fluid, cooling overhaul, valve cover gasket, both windows, AC recharge

[mohaughn]

AM53682
Purchased from the original owner a week ago.

Black '95 Club Sport
174k miles
Sunroof
No Cruise Control
AM/FM w/ 6 disk changer in back

Original wheels 16x7 5 spoke

PO mods:
Bilstein HDs - 5 years ago
K&N cone, but also had the original air box.
Aftermarket Cat-Back
Short throw shifter

Already Fixed - drivers window (temporary), Steering wheel lock, Hatch struts, jacking pads replaced, bled/burped coolant, restored air box w/ new filter, tied down battery (too big for cover)

To be fixed - Oil filter housing (gasket/bushing/filter), Brake overhaul (rotors/pads/shoes/hardware/fluid), ABS sensor connector, Plugs, wires, CCVV, belts, fuel filter, diff & tranny fluid, cooling overhaul, valve cover gasket, both windows, AC recharge

What was the sale price if you don't mind saying? Should help people understand what the market is willing to pay for what looks like a typical condition 95 car.

[EricJ]

$2,500

The body is in great shape, 1 small door dent, a few minor scratches. No paint fade, no plastic color fade. He kept it in the garage for 16 years. 1 cracked fog light lens. Clean Car-Fax. No evidence of any body work.

The interior is spotless. The driver's seat bolster has a little wear, but not torn.

I knew the passenger window didn't work, but didn't know about the driver's window. I knew about the AC having problems and saw the oil leak. The brakes were OK on the test drive, but not great (compared to Miata brakes).

The owner's manuals were in it, along with a Haynes, the stock air box, a set of brake pads, and two fog lights.

New tires.

[cjm1219]

WBACG5323SAM53722

Figured I would add to this thread for the record.

1995 Hellrot Clubsport. Sunroof, premium sound, no LSD

Bought it from the original owner last Saturday.

[1996 328ti]

WBACG5323SAM53722

Figured I would add to this thread for the record.

1995 Hellrot Clubsport. Sunroof, premium sound, no LSD

Bought it from the original owner last Saturday.No LSD?
I always thought LSD was standard.

[cjm1219]

From what I can tell there were 3 options. Sunroof, lsd, premium sound system.

[cjm1219]

No LSD?
I always thought LSD was standard.

I confirmed that it doesn't have LSD. Did the spin the tire while jacked up test. other wheel turned opposite direction.

I have the original window sticker with no mention of LSD. Too bad for me. Might have to add it in the future. I think that would be an appropriate mod for my clubsport

[mohaughn]

Check the tag on your diff. If you have an "S" tag, you need to have your diff looked at to see if the clutches are worn out. All clubsports should have an LSD. Unless you have a window sheet or spec sheet from the dealer showing your car wasn't delivered with an LSD, I would suspect something may be wrong with it and causing it to behave as an open unit.

The 95's also had issues early on with the diff seals leaking. I know of some cars that ruined their LSD by not realizing it had drained all fluid. Possible that somebody replaced it with the cheaper open diff?

[BimmerBum]

From what I can tell LSD was an option for Club Sports. You may have differential issues or you may not have an LSD at all.

[cjm1219]

No LSD came with my Clubsport according to the VIN# lookup.


;)

AM53722


VIN long WBACG5323SAM53722

Type code CG53

Type 318TI (USA)

Dev. series E36 (5)

Line 3

Body type COMP

Steering LL

Door count 3

Engine M42

Cubical capacity 1.80

Power 103

Transmision HECK

Gearbox MECH

Colour HELLROT (314)

Upholstery STOFF MILLPOINT/ROT (D7RT)

Prod. date 1995-10-12


Order options
No. Description
240 LEATHER STEERING WHEEL

243 AIRBAG FOR FRONT PASSENGER

315 REAR WINDSCREEN WIPER

337 M SPORTS PACKAGE

401 SLIDING/VENT ROOF, ELECTRIC

441 SMOKERS PACKAGE

481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

520 FOGLIGHTS

530 AIR CONDITIONING

676 HIFI LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEM

694 PREPARATION FOR CD CHANGER

704 M SPORT SUSPENSION

818 MAIN BATTERY SWITCH

925 SHIPPING PROTECTION PACKAGE

[cjm1219]

you may not have an LSD at all.

That's was I was saying. No LSD. But I think the conventional wisdom is that all Clubsports came with LSD which doesn't appear to be correct.

[SickFinga]

Here are some stats for the Club Sport


200 cars built (none were built for Canada)

1st Club Sport was built on September 11 1995 (2 cars built on that day) VIN AM53293

Last Club Sport built on October 13 1995 (13 Club Sports built on that day) VIN AM53731

94 Painted in Bright Red (314)

106 Painted in Jet Black (668)


There were 3 options; Sun roof, Premium sound, LSD

15 cars without sun roof.
45 cars without premium sound
86 cars without LSD

[318318]

Mr Sick Finga...

Such very, very interesting Club Sport information!

Can you tell us how you're able to get this info? From what I've been able to find, it's possible to get build info on a per car basis, but not for the entire model.

I also have a 2002ti, and have run a 1600ti/2002ti Registry for many years. Again, I can get build specifics from BMW on a per car basis, but they have told me they aren't able to get the options/colors/numbers for the entire build of the model. Hence, we have no way of knowing how many were built for each color, how many with sunroofs,how many to be exported, etc.

Thanks!

vince

[SickFinga]

I got build sheets for all the North American 1.8l manual 318ti, from that I got the Club Sport info.

Not exactly sure how to get information for the older cars, such as 2002ti, since BMW doesn't have build sheets for them on their network.

[pdxmotorhead]

Supposedly there was also a issue with some units leaking or wearing out the clutches, the dealers were substituting Open diffs on the repair if the customer didn't want to pay.

Dave

[asado]

From what I can tell there were 3 options. Sunroof, lsd, premium sound system.

LSD is an option.

[dave45056]

The question is:
If there were only 200 of them made, yet the VIN numbers span 438 units, how can you be sure you have a REAL Club Sport and not a car that's within the range and been modified?
I know BMW has a SA code for Club Sport... It's 768 Individual Series "Club Sport". I've just never heard of a ti with that code associated with it.

[jay7602]

Just had my interest in 318ti piqued by a Roundel ad for a club sport. After reading thru this thread, I'm scratching my head (like Dave). Either there are 238 imposters sprinkled thru the VIN run or there were at least 438 CS built.
I'm interested because I want to be able to tell that a ti I'm looking at is a CS (or not). Off to Mallards data?

jay

[teetime4one]

Just had my interest in 318ti piqued by a Roundel ad for a club sport. After reading thru this thread, I'm scratching my head (like Dave). Either there are 238 imposters sprinkled thru the VIN run or there were at least 438 CS built.
I'm interested because I want to be able to tell that a ti I'm looking at is a CS (or not). Off to Mallards data?

jay
Welcome to the Org Jay

[1996 328ti]

Just had my interest in 318ti piqued by a Roundel ad for a club sport. After reading thru this thread, I'm scratching my head (like Dave). Either there are 238 imposters sprinkled thru the VIN run or there were at least 438 CS built.
I'm interested because I want to be able to tell that a ti I'm looking at is a CS (or not). Off to Mallards data?

jayWhere is the ad?

[jay7602]

Steven
Ad was in most recent Roundel. Car was sold when I called.
jay

[1996 328ti]

Steven
Ad was in most recent Roundel. Car was sold when I called.
jayThanks. Guess that's why I didn't see it online.

[Jason_ClubSport]

I have a hell rot, sunroof, totally original 318ti Club Sport _ WBA***SAM53553. It was imported to Canada early 2012 I believe.
I would love to have an original sales brochure, any ideas? Also, who at BMW do I contact for original build info, etc.? Thanks.

[Snidly]

I have a hell rot, sunroof, totally original 318ti Club Sport _ WBA***SAM53553. It was imported to Canada early 2012 I believe.
I would love to have an original sales brochure, any ideas? Also, who at BMW do I contact for original build info, etc.? Thanks.

There are 4 new 318Ti Clubsport brochures on Ebay $16.94US

[Snidly]

Just acquired 53594 today, it's a bit rough, but should be bring-backable without too much pain (I hope...) Needs paint and body. Regardless, it needed saving.
Production date: 1995-10-06
314 Hellrot
S209A 25% limited Slip
S401A Electric Sunroof
S676A Hi Fi Speakers
No cruise
no OBC

[BimmerBum]

53596

Red
LSD
Sun Roof

[erikerikerik]

AM53526
No LSD (but I was told one was later installed, I will do the wheel spin to confirm later).


It needs some help, its in the same condition as any 1995 e36. inside doors are shot, dry trim all over.

It needs some love, but I think I will give it just that.
ps, going from a M3 to this... How the heck do you guys do this without the cruse control??
And I'm thinking of remounting the seat rails further back like they are in my old M3

[carsmikew]

Hey everyone looking for set of vader seats up to $300

need to be manual and working order i dont care if they have rips or holes

[Jnoronbmws]

Just bought 53478 from original owner. Black, premium sound, no LSD.

[Jason_ClubSport]

Hello Snidly, Thanks for the advice last fall on the eBay brochures. I purchased a few of them to go with my little gem of a car. Btw, I've had to put the car up for sale...moving overseas. It's posted on the For Sale section of this site. Cheers, happy driving!

[Jason_ClubSport]

There are 4 new 318Ti Clubsport brochures on Ebay $16.94US

Hello Snidly, Thanks for the advice last fall on the eBay brochures. I purchased a few of them to go with my little gem of a car. Btw, I've had to put the car up for sale...moving overseas. It's posted on the For Sale section of this site. Cheers, happy driving!

[1996 328ti]

Might as well add my newly acquired Club Sport.
WBACG5328SAM53571

[318318]

Congrats, Stephen!

That one is not in the unofficial registry I've been keeping since I bought mine. Mind telling us the important details, such as color, sunroof, LSD, etc? More and more keep popping up all the time! 34 at present whose VIN numbers I scooped up, have to be more out there!

Hope you had fun at Oktoberfest, it was a lot of work for the people involved, and you were definitely one of the behind the scenes miracle workers..... Thanks!

vince

[1996 328ti]

Congrats, Stephen!

That one is not in the unofficial registry I've been keeping since I bought mine. Mind telling us the important details, such as color, sunroof, LSD, etc? More and more keep popping up all the time! 34 at present whose VIN numbers I scooped up, have to be more out there!

Hope you had fun at Oktoberfest, it was a lot of work for the people involved, and you were definitely one of the behind the scenes miracle workers..... Thanks!

vince
Bought from a board member.
http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=38867
Jet Black, Red Millpoint, sunroof, LSD.

People tell me they had a good time at Ofest.
I barely remember it. :)

[318318]

Okay, I did see that one and copied all the info, but just didn't put it on the list. :) Sounds like a good deal for you!

Next year should be a nice drive to Colorado....

vince

[Fast Eddie]

I purchased a ClubSport last month from a gentlemen in Rochester, IN (very well kept / maintained). I've been enjoying this car very much, it's probably one of my favorite vehicles out of all the BMW's I've owned (03-X5 4.4i, 05-330ci ZHP, 98-M3 sedan, 08-135i, 02-X5 4.6is, 95-318ti clubsport).

VIN#WBACG5329SAM53577
mileage - 97k
exterior - black
interior - black / red millpoint
LSD, sunroof

[Borg561]

Here are some stats for the Club Sport


200 cars built (none were built for Canada)

1st Club Sport was built on September 11 1995 (2 cars built on that day) VIN AM53293

Last Club Sport built on October 13 1995 (13 Club Sports built on that day) VIN AM53731

94 Painted in Bright Red (314)

106 Painted in Jet Black (668)


There were 3 options; Sun roof, Premium sound, LSD

15 cars without sun roof.
45 cars without premium sound
86 cars without LSD

Did some research. There were 85 cars without LSD, all your other numbers are correct. The "main" run of cars started on 9/25/1995 with AM53460 and ended on 10/13/1995 with AM53731.

106 cars were Schwarz 2
94 cars were Hellrot

85 cars without LSD (47 black, 38 red)
45 cars without premium sound (27 black, 18 red)
15 cars without sunroof (8 black, 7 red)

There were no cars built with none of the three options or just premium sound. Five had only the LSD and twenty-four had only the sunroof. The most common option combination was all three (LSD, sunroof, & premium sound) with 84.

Edit: Car AM53487 seems to be an anomaly. Originally I hadn't scrolled all the way down the options list (it's split in two) and so I didn't see the M Sport Package option. It appears to be a US-spec Clubsport that was built for delivery to Great Britain. It includes several options not normally seen on US-spec cars (manually adjustable steering column, headlight aim control, warning triangle/first aid kit, & OBC V). I'm curious if it was originally purchased by a service member and where it is today.

The question is:
If there were only 200 of them made, yet the VIN numbers span 438 units, how can you be sure you have a REAL Club Sport and not a car that's within the range and been modified?
I know BMW has a SA code for Club Sport... It's 768 Individual Series "Club Sport". I've just never heard of a ti with that code associated with it.

There were regular, non-Clubsport, ti's built within the Clubsport VIN range. Easiest way to tell if you have a real Clubsport is to run the VIN through a BMW VIN decoder. The car should be Schwarz 2 or Hellrot, red millpoint interior and there should be 3 particular options on the car, P337A - M Sports Package, S481A - Sports seat (not CS exclusive), and S704A - M Sports suspension (also not CS exclusive).

Justin

[1996 328ti]

Interesting...
I would have sworn there are more Red than Black Club Sports.
So LSD was an option.

[erikerikerik]

Interesting...
I would have sworn there are more Red than Black Club Sports.
So LSD was an option.

LSD was an option.. And some sellers state that they have it when they really dont :mad:

The reason you might see more Red Clubsports is because they have a higher turnover rate.

[Borg561]

Interesting...
I would have sworn there are more Red than Black Club Sports.
So LSD was an option.

I think that's partly because Red cars tend to stand out more and Black cars blend in with the crowd a bit. One interesting thing I noticed while combing the data is that the cars were not built sequentially by VIN. There were several instances where a VIN had an earlier build date than a car with a lower number VIN.

Also, if anyone is interested, I can post some more stats once I get home from work this evening (cars built per day, option grouping, etc). I shoved all the data into a spreadsheet for future reference.

Justin

[erikerikerik]

I think that's partly because Red cars tend to stand out more and Black cars blend in with the crowd a bit. One interesting thing I noticed while combing the data is that the cars were not built sequentially by VIN. There were several instances where a VIN had an earlier build date than a car with a lower number VIN.

Also, if anyone is interested, I can post some more stats once I get home from work this evening (cars built per day, option grouping, etc). I shoved all the data into a spreadsheet for future reference.

Justin

I think I speak for all clubsport owners... YES!

[1996 328ti]

Is there an absolute number of Club Sports built?

[Borg561]

I think I speak for all clubsport owners... YES!

I should mention that it's stats that can be determined from the build sheets.

And Steve, unless there were some built after the last VIN I've found (AM53731) or with automatic trannys, it's exactly 200 built. While the first two built don't have any of the typical pre-production option codes, I imagine they were testers/press cars and am not sure if they were ever sold to the public. They were built a full two weeks before main production began, and most of the cars were built in groups, not single cars here and there. Going to run some more VINs tonight to eliminate the possibility of more cars.

Justin

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[Borg561]

So, nerdy stat time.

Lowest VIN: AM53293
Highest VIN: AM53731
Most sequential VINs: 37 (AM53695-AM53731; first 21 are Black, the last 16 are Red)
Fewest sequential VINS: 1 (7 different; 6 are Black, 1 Red)

Options:

85 without LSD (47 Black, 38 Red)
45 without premium sound (27 Black, 18 Red)
15 without sunroof (8 Black, 7 Red)


Option combinations:

84 with LSD, premium sound, & sunroof (40 Black, 44 Red)
10 with just LSD & premium sound (8 Black, 2 Red)
16 with just LSD & sunroof (11 Black, 5 Red)
61 with just premium sound & sunroof (31 Black, 30 Red)
5 with just LSD (0 Black, 5 Red)
24 with just sunroof (16 Black, 8 Red)
None with just premium sound or none of the three options


Build Dates:

2 built on 9/11/1995 (1 Black, 1 Red)
4 built on 9/25/1995 (4 Black, 0 Red)
9 built on 9/26/1995 (9 Black, 0 Red)
7 built on 9/27/1995 (7 Black, 0 Red)
17 built on 9/28/1995 (7 Black, 10 Red)
20 built on 9/29/1995 (0 Black, 20 Red)
21 built on 10/4/1995 (5 Black, 16 Red)
23 built on 10/5/1995 (14 Black, 9 Red)
22 built on 10/6/1995 (4 Black, 18 Red)
15 built on 10/9/1995 (13 Black, 2 Red)
11 built on 10/10/1995 (10 Black, 1 Red)
12 built on 10/11/1995 (12 Black, 0 Red)
24 built on 10/12/1995 (18 Black, 6 Red)
13 built on 10/13/1995 (2 Black, 11 Red)


If anyone really wants me to get nerdy, I can break the option groups down by build date.

Edit: And just because, here's the build sheet for that anomaly car.

Model description: 318TI
Market: USA
Type: CG53
E-Code: E36 (5)
Chassis: compact
Steering: left
Doors: 3
Engine: M42 - 1,80l (103kW)
Drive: Rear-Wheel Drive (sDrive)
Transmission: manuel
Body Color: SCHWARZ 2
Upholstery: STOFF MILLPOINT/ROT
Production date: 26.09.1995
Assembled in: München

Code - Serienausstattung --- Standard Equipment
S209A - Sperrdifferenzial --- Differential lock 25%
S246A - Lenksäulenverstellung mechanisch --- Manually adjust. steering column
S314A - Aussenspiegel / Fahrerschloss beheizt --- Door mirror / driver's lock, heated
S410A - Fensterheber elektrisch vorne --- Window lifts, electric, front
S465A - Durchladesystem --- Through-loading system
S510A - Leuchtweitenregulierung --- Headlight aim control
S520A - Nebelscheinwerfer --- Fog lights
S542A - Check-Control --- Check Control
S710A - M Lederlenkrad --- M leather steering wheel
S853A - Sprachversion englisch --- Language version English

Code - Sonderausstattung --- Optional Equipment
S240A - Lenkrad Leder Airbag --- Leather steering wheel
S243A - Airbag Beifahrer --- Airbag for front passenger
S315A - Heckscheibenwischer --- Rear window wiper
P337A - M Sportpaket --- M Sports package
S401A - Schiebehebedach elektrisch --- Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof, electric
S428A - Warndreieck und Verbandstasche --- Warning triangle and first aid kit
S431A - Innenspiegel automatisch abblendend --- Interior mirror with automatic-dip
S441A - Raucherpaket --- Smoker package
S481A - Sportsitz --- Sports seat
S498A - Kopfstützen im Fond mechanisch --- Headrests, rear, mechanically adjustable
S530A - Klimaanlage --- Air conditioning
S534A - Klimaautomatik --- Automatic air conditioning
S540A - Geschwindigkeitsregelung --- Cruise control
S554A - Bordcomputer V mit Fernbedienung --- On-board computer V with remote control
S669A - Radio BMW Business RDS --- Radio BMW Business RDS
S676A - HiFi Lautsprechersystem --- HiFi speaker system
S694A - Vorbereitung BMW 6 CD Wechsler --- Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer
S704A - M Sportfahrwerk --- M Sports suspension
L812A - Länderausführung England / Irland --- NATIONAL VERSION GREAT BRITAIN
S818A - Batteriehauptschalter --- Battery master switch
S850A - Zusätzl. Tankfüllung Export --- Additional Export tank filling
S863A - Händlerverzeichnis Europa --- Retailer Directory Europe
S880A - Bordliteratur englisch --- On-board vehicle literature English
S925A - Versandschutzpaket --- Transport protection package

Code - Information
S686A - Antennen-Diversity --- Antenna-Diversity

Justin

[BimmerBum]

So, nerdy stat time.

Options:

85 without LSD (47 Black, 38 Red)
45 without premium sound (27 Black, 18 Red)
15 without sunroof (8 Black, 7 Red)


Option combinations:

84 with LSD, premium sound, & sunroof (40 Black, 44 Red)
10 with just LSD & premium sound (8 Black, 2 Red)
16 with just LSD & sunroof (11 Black, 5 Red)
61 with just premium sound & sunroof (31 Black, 30 Red)
5 with just LSD (0 Black, 5 Red)
24 with just sunroof (16 Black, 8 Red)
None with just premium sound or none of the three options


Build Dates:

2 built on 9/11/1995 (1 Black, 1 Red)
4 built on 9/25/1995 (4 Black, 0 Red)
9 built on 9/26/1995 (9 Black, 0 Red)
7 built on 9/27/1995 (7 Black, 0 Red)
17 built on 9/28/1995 (7 Black, 10 Red)
20 built on 9/29/1995 (0 Black, 20 Red)
21 built on 10/4/1995 (5 Black, 16 Red)
23 built on 10/5/1995 (14 Black, 9 Red)
22 built on 10/6/1995 (4 Black, 18 Red)
15 built on 10/9/1995 (13 Black, 2 Red)
11 built on 10/10/1995 (10 Black, 1 Red)
12 built on 10/11/1995 (12 Black, 0 Red)
24 built on 10/12/1995 (18 Black, 6 Red)
13 built on 10/13/1995 (2 Black, 11 Red)


If anyone really wants me to get nerdy, I can break the option groups down by build date.

Justin

This is fantastic! Where are you sourcing all this information? With 2 Club Sports in the family I am very interested in however nerdy you want to get.

[erikerikerik]

AM53526

:D mine was one of the 20 red ones built!

[Borg561]

This is fantastic! Where are you sourcing all this information?

I took the range of VINs that SickFinga posted, then ran them through a VIN decoder one by one, copying the relevant info into a spreadsheet. Then it was just a matter of formulas to get the different stats (or I could have manually counted, but formulas are easier).

Justin

[BimmerBum]

No affiliation, just record keeping.

1995 Club Sport (http://www.copart.com/c2/individualLot.html?lotId=25446803&returnPage=SEARCH_RESULTS&eid=email_US_mktg_Watchlist_2013_ViewVehicleButton)

VIN: AM53545

http://www.angelfire.com/de3/bimmertoyz/CoPartCS.jpg

[erikerikerik]

speaking of record keeping, anyone know what happened to bluebimma's clubsport? Or rather what the VIN on his was?

[cjm1219]

this is fun stuff.

So, my car is 1 of 30 (red, Sunroof, premium sound and no pesky LSD:smile:)

I keep questioning whether there is really only 200 of them cuz it seems like one is for sale on here every other week or so.

I would guess that it being rare means people kept better care for them and maybe are more inclined to post on this website.

[diegokiill]

Have a easy way to know if my car had LSD?

[1996 328ti]

Have a easy way to know if my car had LSD?
http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3648

[Borg561]

Have a easy way to know if my car had LSD?

Or pop the last 7 digits of your VIN into this (http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18444) thread and someone will run it through a VIN decoder listing all the options that were on the car when it was built.

Justin

[slicktop clubsport]

WBACG5326SAM53620

[antedc5-s]

WBACG5327SAM53609

[erikerikerik]

finally got these in the mail
http://i.imgur.com/tGAGXze.jpg

:biggrin:

[1996 328ti]

finally got these in the mail


:biggrin:
Pretty cool!
What did they originally come on?

[erikerikerik]

1994 325i clubsports All of the M3 styling, none of the power


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[1996 328ti]

1994 325i clubsports All of the M3 styling, none of the power


Sent from my RM-820_nam_att_100 using TapatalkThought those are M-Technics?

[erikerikerik]

Duh, your right, we got m-tech euro got clubsports. Clubsports also came in vert flavor also, 25 of them actually made it over to our shores.

[maukm3]

WBACG5326SAM53617 ......Black

[COOPERDB]

finally got these in the mail
http://i.imgur.com/tGAGXze.jpg

:biggrin:



OUTSTANDING -

Source / Link


Thank - You ---

[FunElan]

My car is AM53631, but not a clubsport:biggrin::biggrin:

[erikerikerik]

Guys....


VIN long WBACG6321SAM70699

Type code CG63

Type 318TI (USA)

Dev. series E36 (5)

Line 3

Body type COMP

Steering LL

Door count 3

Engine M42

Cubical capacity 1.80

Power 103

Transmision HECK

Gearbox AUT

Colour ALPINWEISS 3 (300)

Upholstery STOFF/ROT (C7RE)

Prod. date 1995-05-20




Order options
No. Description
209 LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL (25%)

240 LEATHER STEERING WHEEL

243 AIRBAG FOR FRONT PASSENGER

282 LT/ALY WHEELS SPORT SPOKE STYLING II

315 REAR WINDSCREEN WIPER

401 SLIDING/VENT ROOF, ELECTRIC

441 SMOKERS PACKAGE

481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

520 FOGLIGHTS

530 AIR CONDITIONING

676 HIFI LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEM

694 PREPARATION FOR CD CHANGER

704 M SPORT SUSPENSION

818 MAIN BATTERY SWITCH

925 SHIPPING PROTECTION PACKAGE



What wizardy is this? :eek:

[Borg561]

Guys....


VIN long WBACG6321SAM70699

Type code CG63

Type 318TI (USA)

Dev. series E36 (5)

Line 3

Body type COMP

Steering LL

Door count 3

Engine M42

Cubical capacity 1.80

Power 103

Transmision HECK

Gearbox AUT

Colour ALPINWEISS 3 (300)

Upholstery STOFF/ROT (C7RE)

Prod. date 1995-05-20




Order options
No. Description
209 LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL (25%)

240 LEATHER STEERING WHEEL

243 AIRBAG FOR FRONT PASSENGER

282 LT/ALY WHEELS SPORT SPOKE STYLING II

315 REAR WINDSCREEN WIPER

401 SLIDING/VENT ROOF, ELECTRIC

441 SMOKERS PACKAGE

481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

520 FOGLIGHTS

530 AIR CONDITIONING

676 HIFI LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEM

694 PREPARATION FOR CD CHANGER

704 M SPORT SUSPENSION

818 MAIN BATTERY SWITCH

925 SHIPPING PROTECTION PACKAGE



What wizardy is this? :eek:

Not a Clubsport. Keys to it being a Clubsport: Schwarz 2 or Hellrot exterior, Stoff Millpoint/Rot interior, and probably most important P337A M Sport Package. There was a regular Sport model that came with the suspension and seats, but didn't have the front/rear bumpers or M3 mirrors.

Justin

[erikerikerik]

Not a Clubsport. Keys to it being a Clubsport: Schwarz 2 or Hellrot exterior, Stoff Millpoint/Rot interior, and probably most important P337A M Sport Package. There was a regular Sport model that came with the suspension and seats, but didn't have the front/rear bumpers or M3 mirrors.

Justin

I know that... but holy heck, it looks like a clubsport prototype.

[Platanos]

Gearbox AUT I'm assuming that means automatic


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[roadrash]

I know that... but holy heck, it looks like a clubsport prototype.
I suggest starting a new thread to discuss it. :biggrin:

[LouM...]

In the E31 world we have an E31 Registry. It's an attempt to find all E31s out there. Even the salvaged ones. I was part of the search for E31s for sale on the web (Ebay, Autotrader, etc). I think that I contributed data on about 200 cars to the list This has been going on for quite awhile.
The E31 webpage has a database that identifies the year, model (840, 850, CSI, etc.), transmission, location, owner, pictures, and any other data that helps with the knowledge of these cars. This webpage is available only to those that are owners of these cars. As a result of this work and the enthusiasm of the owners there is now a stand alone BMW E31 chapter within the BMW CCA.
Has anything like this registry been started for these cars? Are there production numbers by year somewhere? There seems to be a lot of salvaging going on with these cars which would make those that are left even more rare depending upon how many were initially produced.
The VIN Decoder thread here is a great beginning to a registry.
LouM...

[Borg561]

In the E31 world we have an E31 Registry. It's an attempt to find all E31s out there. Even the salvaged ones. I was part of the search for E31s for sale on the web (Ebay, Autotrader, etc). I think that I contributed data on about 200 cars to the list This has been going on for quite awhile.
The E31 webpage has a database that identifies the year, model (840, 850, CSI, etc.), transmission, location, owner, pictures, and any other data that helps with the knowledge of these cars. This webpage is available only to those that are owners of these cars. As a result of this work and the enthusiasm of the owners there is now a stand alone BMW E31 chapter within the BMW CCA.
Has anything like this registry been started for these cars? Are there production numbers by year somewhere? There seems to be a lot of salvaging going on with these cars which would make those that are left even more rare depending upon how many were initially produced.
The VIN Decoder thread here is a great beginning to a registry.
LouM...

A registry for the Clubsports could be interesting (not feasible for all Compacts), however hosting it here would be a decision for Steven to make. If there's interest in this, I can provide a list of all 200 Clubsport VINs.

Justin

[BimmerBum]

I would be interested in that. I can tell you exactly where 1% of them are.

Sadly, Clubsports never got much appreciation so the miles were packed on and some owners don't even know what they have. Even with only 200 cars a complete registry may be difficult BUT I imagine every registry for any car faces the same issues. It can only help the value!

[erikerikerik]

WBACG5329SAM53577

currently salvage title, http://www.copart.com/us/Lot/14119266

[Fast Eddie]

WBACG5329SAM53577

currently salvage title, http://www.copart.com/us/Lot/14119266

That was my clubsport! Gonna miss her.

[stevick]

Hey all, I'm an e38 750iL guy myself, but I've been on the hunt for something smaller for a daily driver. I came across a CL listing for a Club Sport in Jacksonville, FL. Looks authentic - VIN is ...SAM53716. Great looking car per the listing with 150K miles (hellrot), and seller wants $4900. Didn't know what this was until I poked around the web. When I came across your thread I thought I'd add to it. The car's not my speed and the price seems a bit optimistic, but if interested, the link is: https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/ctd/5461357453.html Take care... Steve K.

[erikerikerik]

Hey all, I'm an e38 750iL guy myself, but I've been on the hunt for something smaller for a daily driver. I came across a CL listing for a Club Sport in Jacksonville, FL. Looks authentic - VIN is ...SAM53716. Great looking car per the listing with 150K miles (hellrot), and seller wants $4900. Didn't know what this was until I poked around the web. When I came across your thread I thought I'd add to it. The car's not my speed and the price seems a bit optimistic, but if interested, the link is: https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/ctd/5461357453.html Take care... Steve K.

I can see the drivers door-card is going out / gone.
Find out when the last time the valve cover was changed?
Also if any of the vacuum hoses have been replaced.


That door card is a single piece. So, you cant pop out the red part and drop it into another, you have: 1) to replace the whole thing with another clubpsort door card or 2) find an active 99 that had the stoff rot 3) or repair it. I've been looking for years and years for new(er) door cards myself.

Looks like its on its original shocks and springs?

The rear wiper has been removed.

The front bumper is missing the front screen and everything underneath it.

Check for rust in the drivers foot well area.

I would offer 3.5k to start with.

[DC TI]

am53542 here. 4th owner of a '95 Hellrot Club Sport. LSD and sunroof delete.

Car has been on this forum before: a search showed the classified ad from Owner 2 to Owner 3, and I bought the car from Owner 3 after he listed it here as well.

[ChItalian1027]

Man I really need to get into a Club Sport!

[Slammin]

AM53647 here.

No LSD, no primo sound, but yes to the sunroof. Someone had the priorities mixed up with that order sheet.

[daweise1]

AM53607 is now owned by me.... Over 286K miles on the clock

Was bought as a Craigslist $1500 S52/M3 project till I discovered it's "pedigree"...

Needs engine and paint/clear coat repair, but it runs, all the parts work, and it's very original.

My street "race" car project just became a full on restore... Oh well..

[Ski-U-Mark]

It’s been awhile since anyone has posted here but I just picked up a Hellrot red club sport that ends with SAM53603. It had options delete so no cruise, tilt, and what not. It does have the LSD and a sunroof. Supposedly a previous owner used to AutoX the car in Florida and he installed a lightened flywheel, Stromung exhaust, an X brace and a few other odds and ends. It’s a little rough for a full restore but I plan on getting the car in nice shape and bringing it around to the local BMW club events and some AutoX and what not. I’m also starting a YouTube channel and I’m going to feature the Clubsport so if you’re interested check it out at Ninety-One Octane.

[BRADESTAR]

I was doing some housekeeping and came across the paperwork that I had from the club sport that I took apart. So this one is no longer out there.

Vin: WBACG532X5AM53569
It was Black w/sunroof.

[AustinTX]

AM53498 Black. Picked it up last year in Austin.

[robbub]

I know this is a pretty dead thread, but wanted to update for record keeping sake. I was one of the previous owners of this ti and happy to say it is back in my possession. After contacting BimmerBum back in 2014(?), he finally sold it back to me last year. It is now up on stands and getting the refresh that it desperately needs. It was an unfortunate situation that he had to sell it, but it is absolutely in good hands and I'm so stoked to have it back. The m50 swap was done by myself back in 2003, in my parents driveway and it is hilarious to see the work I did 20 years later up close....definitely in the "good enough" category of things. Excited to dig in fix a lot of hasty work done by a teenager who was high on way too much redbull. So to summarize: the Black Clubsport, vin WBACG5321SAM53623 , Slick top, m50tu (until I can source a nice s54) is now out here in Portland back with its second owner. WBACG5321SAM53623 Black, No Sunroof, M50tu swap, and looking for any previous owners. and... We have a red one in the family with a sunroof. I just fired off an email to get that vin. I will edit this post when I get a reply. I know I'm real late to the program but this is a good thread to keep adding to.

[J!m]

That's a cool story!

I hope BimmerBum is doing well... I haven't spoken with him for several years now.