TI hits the big time in the uk

[m black]

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[spidertri]

Is it a spec suspension for the series or are you free to pick spring rates and damper valving? Do they convert to a true coilover in the rear?

[m black]

Is it a spec suspension for the series or are you free to pick spring rates and damper valving? Do they convert to a true coilover in the rear?
Springs are free all cars have to run the same unit including valving the rears are full coilovers see pic the front is converted to run 4 deg neg camber,

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[spidertri]

Wow thats interesting. What kind of reinforcement did you do to the trailing arm and shock tower to run a true coilover?

[m black]

Wow thats interesting. What kind of reinforcement did you do to the trailing arm and shock tower to run a true coilover?
No reinforcement to top mount or rear arm but we do have a rose jointed top mount i will get some pics .

[Prince]

That looks interesting! What benefits does changing to a 'true' coilover over the independant spring and shock give you?

[1996 328ti]

That looks interesting! What benefits does changing to a 'true' coilover over the independant spring and shock give you?This seems to be a good read.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Coilover-Suspensions---Pros-and-Cons&id=12461
And according to http://www.sportcompactonly.com/Coilovers/tech-article_a-6.htm, girls dig it. :)

[spidertri]

That looks interesting! What benefits does changing to a 'true' coilover over the independant spring and shock give you?

More spring travel I suppose, you can run lower spring rates compared to the stock location and end up with similar wheel rates. It would probably be easier to adjust ride height (and corner balance) with the spring closer to the rear of the car.

You'd lose inner wheel clearance if the spring doesn't sit above the tire. It seems hard to believe that reinforcement isn't necessary. The shock towers rip out with just shocks, I can't imagine the spring force helping that situation any.

[Prince]

More spring travel I suppose, you can run lower spring rates compared to the stock location and end up with similar wheel rates. It would probably be easier to adjust ride height (and corner balance) with the spring closer to the rear of the car.

You'd lose inner wheel clearance if the spring doesn't sit above the tire. It seems hard to believe that reinforcement isn't necessary. The shock towers rip out with just shocks, I can't imagine the spring force helping that situation any.

I think it's a stange one because my E36 is the first car I've owned with independant shocks and springs so it makes me wonder why BMW done it that way.

[spidertri]

My Mk4 jetta has separate shocks and springs. With the ti and z3 they were really just reusing a known design and it probably has to with packaging and clearances. I know the E39s have coilovers at all 4 corners.

[m black]

I think it's a stange one because my E36 is the first car I've owned with independant shocks and springs so it makes me wonder why BMW done it that way.
I can only tell you what is happening to the race cars no problems yet but it is early days, we are racing this weekend at snetterton i will post any problems
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A pic off the rear you can see how basic the cars are and the rose jointed off set topmounts.

[familytruckster]

Holy crap, not even the "stock" reinforcements. Wow, I'll be amazed if you guys don't have issues. At least if you do it's a known problem and easy to fix.

Are these races televised at all? Available online?

[m black]

Are these races televised at all? Available online?
Not televised its the first season we are still trying are best to get noticed maybe one day
We do have a few drivers race vids enjoy

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[Prince]

That looks like great fun!

[m black]

I will post some pics and videos has i get hold of it en http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvnJSfuSz7Ujoy
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[m black]

A bit more press for the uk compacts out now ,
ps im the bald guy on the right.
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[familytruckster]

Cool, though it's too small to actually read the body of the article. (at least for me)

[m black]

Cool, though it's too small to actually read the body of the article. (at least for me)
And me i will try to get the actual pdf leave it with me.

[xxxJohnBoyxxx]

Nice video. White and Blue tangle at 1:00 in the video and White spins. Great vid.

[mohaughn]

I can only tell you what is happening to the race cars no problems yet but it is early days, we are racing this weekend at snetterton i will post any problems
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i340/bmwracedays/100_5826.jpg
A pic off the rear you can see how basic the cars are and the rose jointed off set topmounts.

Brandshatch and Silverstone are both extremely smooth tracks. How smooth is snetterton? A track like Sebring or the old Daytona before repaving might cause more issues. Although I have to wonder how much that rear cross brace is helping keep the rear mounts from deforming. I have a similar rear brace bar as part of my roll bar, but I'm not using true rear coilovers.

The US BMW CR cars that convert to true rear coilovers have issues with those mounts mushrooming out the top, but they also run really really high spring rates. I can't find a direct linkable picture, but if you go to http://www.tcdesignfab.com/, look at the projects page at the E36. There is a picture in there of the reinforced rear shock towers. I think the rally car build on here shows the same.

[m black]

Brandshatch and Silverstone are both extremely smooth tracks. How smooth is snetterton? A track like Sebring or the old Daytona before repaving might cause more issues. Although I have to wonder how much that rear cross brace is helping keep the rear mounts from deforming. I have a similar rear brace bar as part of my roll bar, but I'm not using true rear coilovers.

The US BMW CR cars that convert to true rear coilovers have issues with those mounts mushrooming out the top, but they also run really really high spring rates. I can't find a direct linkable picture, but if you go to http://www.tcdesignfab.com/, look at the projects page at the E36. There is a picture in there of the reinforced rear shock towers. I think the rally car build on here shows the same.
Thanks for your advice ,we run a 275lbs rear spring with no problems (yet) i am keeping a close eye on this and will post any problems.

[Topperz]

Just a couple of pics from this years donington park race