Thinking about selling the '02 for a Ti.

[1orange2]

Hello everyone,
My name is Josh and this is my baby. I've recently graduated from the chiropractic college and have been thinking about a more "practical" car.
Then my friend came over with a cali top 318ti, oh boy lol.

The 2002 was bought new in California by a woman. She was actually a renown Professor at the University in Berkeley. Eventually it was sold to Joseph the owner of Munich Motorworks.

No corners have been cut on this car, and quite a bit of money has been spent.
I know I'll never get another early model with all of these hard to find ( near unobtainable) parts. It's hard to find any webasto top 2002's let alone one for sale with the rare color.

What do you 318ti-er's think? Should I keep it, or will I be happy in a Ti?
(The car i'm looking at is a 96 m tech 318ti in alpine white)

1970 BMW 2002 Early Model "Roundie" in Colorado Orange

INTERIOR:

Perfect Glass
AutoPower Street/Sport Roll Bar
Early Sand Dollar Guages
Recaro Sport Seats and rear seats reupholstered and flawless
Sport Steering Wheel
Vintage Period Correct VDO Guages in center console
Original Wood Shift Knob and 5spd Shift Knob
E30 325ix Rear View with Map Lights
New Webasto Top (can you say $$$)
New Headliner
Brand New Carpet Kit
Trunk Carpet Kit
Headunit and 6x9's with Remote and Ipod Hookup

Engine/Trans:
BMW M10 170,000 ( new intake, exhaust, valve cover, timing cover, oil pan gaskets)
5spd conversion
New clutch
Shortened Drive Shaft
Short Throw Shift
Weber 38/38 with an electric choke
Tii Exhaust Manifold Ceramic Coated
Full Ansa Exhaust
Bosch Blue Coil
Pertronix Electronic Ignition Brand New Cap
Brand New Wires
Brand New NGK Plugs
Fresh Oil
Fresh Coolant
New Radiator
Brand New Ultima Red Top Battery

EXTERIOR:

"Roundie" Taillights
Euro Turn Signals
Euro Hella Headlights
Original Emblems
Early Kidney Grill and Headlight Grilles
Authentic Zender Rear Spoiler - installed temporarily with 3m double sided tape
Rubber grommet new for between the body and mtech turbo kit
Turbo Air Dam - new uninstalled
Fiberglass Rear Bumper - new uninstalled
Turbo Fender Flares - new uninstalled
( The top half of car was plasti dipped for an "alpina" theme. It's very easily removable)

Suspension:
Top End Performance Front Strut Brace and Engine Brace Combo
Top End Performance Rear Strut Brace and Battery Relocation Combo with Kill Switch
Metric Mechanic 30mm Sway bar ( cant buy these anywhere)
Ireland Engineering Lowering Springs
Urethane Bushings
Front Bilstein Shocks
Rear Koni Shocks
Rear Shock Mounts
The '02 is now on E30 IS Basket Weaves

EXTRAS:

New To Me Front Clip
Extra m10 x 2 full
Extra 5spd Trans x 2
e30 wiring harness computer, injectors manifold etc etc etc. everything pulled off a 318i
Extra Clutch
Brand New Electric Fuel Pump
New Fuel Line
Extra Starter
Extra Alternator

Plenty More


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[FunElan]

Why not both? 02s and ti's complement each other well. What the 02 lacks in practicality, the ti has. The ti lacks in utter 'rawness' compared to the 02.

[teen ti]

I wouldnt sell the 02, you'll miss the hell out of it

[pdxmotorhead]

:) Skyline Blvd...

Cool car,, Wish the timing were better,, cant handle another project right now.. I'd be all over that one..

Dave.

[erikerikerik]

you have a rare round back 2002... WHY would you want to get rid of that???

[middlegati]

keep the 02, buy ti to daily drive for a while... srs drive the 02 like once a month or w.e .. you will miss it if you sell... i gave my bro my 91 325ic e30 and miss the crap out of it... haha... though the ti is still fun to drive.

[Morgan]

might sell my 318ti with s52 in it, 2oo2 looks good
I like 2002's

[1orange2]

I guess I just don't have the time/space for a project honestly.

Too bad you are so far away morgan...

The market for bmws seems crazy right now too. clapped out e30's selling for 3k? ...

What do you guys feel a fair selling price for the car is if it were in your garage?

Thanks again!!

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[vwmikel]

The market for bmws seems crazy right now too. clapped out e30's selling for 3k? ...


I think that's mostly a PNW/Hipster problem. You'll still pay that much for E30's down here, but it had better be a decent car.

[1orange2]

318ti vs e30?

[vwmikel]

318ti vs e30?

Well, both really.

Locally I see a couple of TI's for sale:

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/3817914361.html

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/3762454938.html

You'd hope the first would be nice for the price. The second looks like it could use some work but the price is right. I thought about buying it, but it's an auto and I really don't need it.

[cmptrwiz]

FYI: it wasn't ever actually called a 'cali top' by BMW. It was called an 'Open-Air Folding top' or just folding top. There was never a 'california package' offered on ti's and they aren't all that rare either... there are less ti's without an open-top or sunroof than there are with them. So the hard topped ti's are the actual rarest ti's.

btw: the replacement for the open-air top motor is like $475 and takes months to get. The gears inside are plastic and are not replaceable. I had to change my tops motor as it was hopping open instead of sliding smoothly!

[Coyoteh]

FYI: it wasn't ever actually called a 'cali top' by BMW.

Here's a brochure from BMW that specifically refers to it as a "California Roof"
http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16629
:)

[1orange2]

mines a webasto....

[cmptrwiz]

Yipes! I am so depressed to see this - - still its not 'cali - top' but California Roof. Oh well close enough.

That was the Canadian brochure but the USA brochure is probably the same. Weird my 288 Morea Green is not an option in the link above that you posted. though it calls the Engine an M44 so that's gotta be 1996 Brochure. I am going to buy the 1997 brochure on ebay...

However, in the BMW TIS (internal service manual), the cars build sheets and realoem.com its Folding Top (sunroof is sliding top) or Open-Air Folding Top.

I guess I just dislike the term 'Cali-top' sounds stupid, like it only works in California.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partgrp.do?model=CG83&mospid=47506&hg=54


I want to see if I can find the German domestic brochure..

the build sheet didn't call it that though - its option
755 INDIVIDUAL OPEN-AIR FOLDING TOP

KC82551

Type code CG83

Type 318TI (USA)

Dev. series E36 (5)

Line 3

Body type COMP

Steering LL

Door count 3

Engine M44

Cubical capacity 1.90

Power 103

Transmision HECK

Gearbox AUT

Colour COSMOSSCHWARZ METALLIC (303)

Upholstery STOFF MILLPOINT/GRAU (D7TT)

Prod. date 1997-09-16

Order options
No. Description
214 AUTOMATIC STABILITY CONTROL+TRACTION

240 LEATHER STEERING WHEEL

315 REAR WINDSCREEN WIPER

337 M SPORT PACKAGE

481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

520 FOGLIGHTS

530 AIR CONDITIONING

540 CRUISE CONTROL

550 ON-BOARD COMPUTER

676 HIFI LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEM

704 M SPORT SUSPENSION

755 INDIVIDUAL OPEN-AIR FOLDING TOP

818 MAIN BATTERY SWITCH

925 SHIPPING PROTECTION PACKAGE

[1orange2]

Well this car is quite the conversation starter. Anybody interested in taking her home?

[ion_four]

That's quite a unique car, and if I was looking for a project-ish car, I would definitely be interested. Whore warning: I'm also in Portland, and am selling my 318ti's, if you're interested, my for sale thread is up (can't PM ...) Good luck! Someone will love it!

[1orange2]

So far all I've had are terrible lowballs or people wanting to part it out :/

[ion_four]

That's too bad. If it makes you feel better, I've sold highly modified cars, in the past, and had similar experiences. I once had a guy you wanted to buy a car on a payment plan...with no money down...:confused2

[1orange2]

lol, some peoples kids!

[1orange2]

It's too bad you've got to ditch those ti's the avus blue is gorgeous!

[1orange2]

Well, heres the new one! I think I may be shipping the little '02 off to Utah. The ti is like a grown up 2002 lol!

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[cmptrwiz]

Sweet! Enjoy your new 'ti'

[1orange2]

Thank you!