View Full Version : what bushings should I replace to tighten shifter
Panzer_M
09-21-2005, 08:58 AM
I am trying to knock the slop out of the M shifter in the ClubSport.
thinking of getting a Evo III again, but thinkiing I would rather just replace the worn hardware.
what all should I look at replacing
and should I get the UUC DSSR? and what size 198mm or 189mm?
and going to add a s/s clutch line and TMEs
cali-ti
09-24-2005, 04:38 PM
i'm looking at the auto solutions complete kit with polyurethane front carrier bushing upgrade ($250, $225 w/o bushing upgrade). this should remove all the slop :) http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6949
before that, i had already purchased a z3 shifter and refresh parts. if you choose to do that, i would get the delrin carrier bushings from TMS http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=DBR as well as #4 in the following diagram (note this is for my 1996, make sure you get the correct one for your clubsport) http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=CG73&mospid=47506&btnr=25_0013&hg=25&fg=05
the delrin bushings replace #2 which stock is a rubber bushing. you may also want to get #7, #10 and #11 just to cover in case you lose/break some of those in disassembly. you'll get #3 with the delrin bushings. i would inspect your shifter itself as well to see if the bottom bushing is worn.
i hadn't seen the UUC DSSR before (http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/ - go to Product Catalog, BMW Products, Short Shifters and then DSSR). thanks for mentioning it. i guess i would contact UUC to find out what you need for sure. on UUC's website, i don't see a listing for 318 or 318titi, i would definitely give them a call (and post the results here please).
cali-ti
09-26-2005, 04:27 AM
looks like they recommend the rod joint too: http://www.understeer.com/shiftlever.shtml
stormos
09-26-2005, 05:16 PM
was going to recommend cali-ti, he has changed pretty much every bushing on his car ;)
what is this slop characterised by????? just wanna see if i have any slop :D
1996 328ti
11-17-2005, 12:48 PM
Excessive movement left to right.
It's a relatve term since you really need to compare against another shifter.
cali-ti
11-17-2005, 02:32 PM
what is this slop characterised by????? just wanna see if i have any slop :D
i think this covers it pretty well :)
http://www.autosolutions.net/technical/tech_index.html
L84THSKY
11-17-2005, 06:13 PM
I should become a preacher, then I can justify repeating my message over and over.
Put in the m-coupe shifter and a new plastic cup that hold the shifter in. Total cost $60.00. No slope and nice firm shifting:wink:
I am trying to knock the slop out of the M shifter in the ClubSport.
thinking of getting a Evo III again, but thinkiing I would rather just replace the worn hardware.
what all should I look at replacing
and should I get the UUC DSSR? and what size 198mm or 189mm?
and going to add a s/s clutch line and TMEs
cali-ti
11-17-2005, 06:24 PM
I should become a preacher, then I can justify repeating my message over and over.
Put in the m-coupe shifter and a new plastic cup that hold the shifter in. Total cost $60.00. No slope and nice firm shifting:wink:
there's no way that eliminates all the slop because it doesn't address all the points where slop is introduced. the stock parts will also wear again over time. even replacing all the bushings i specified above won't do the job, although it'll certainly tighten things up for a good amount of time. read the info at the link i posted above, they've done a thorough job of investigating where slop comes in and how to address what is reasonably addressable (imho).
i'll report on the auto solutions kit once i get it and have time to install it. it may be a christmas present to myself :tongue:
L84THSKY
11-17-2005, 06:55 PM
Then I guess "slop" needs to be re-defined. My shifter has NO slop, but it has movement. If it didn't have movement, I couldn't shift. There is no play front to back, and the shifter goes right back to it's center position, if I push it left or right.
there's no way that eliminates all the slop because it doesn't address all the points where slop is introduced. the stock parts will also wear again over time. even replacing all the bushings i specified above won't do the job, although it'll certainly tighten things up for a good amount of time. read the info at the link i posted above, they've done a thorough job of investigating where slop comes in and how to address what is reasonably addressable (imho).
i'll report on the auto solutions kit once i get it and have time to install it. it may be a christmas present to myself :tongue:
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