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weezer
01-20-2006, 01:50 PM
I realize this is hard to examine, but check the intake manifold runners:
http://www.bmw-syndikat.de/bmwsyndikatfotos/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2606&Topic_Title=Loone%27s+E36+Compact&Forum_Title=BMW+E36

That does not look like a typical (US version) 318ti intake runner??!!
davep-uk
01-20-2006, 02:07 PM
i'm not sure what you are talking about, but that blue ti is hot!
weezer
01-20-2006, 02:24 PM
In the engine bay of the wrecked Ti, you can see a set of intake runners taht do not look like the US version's Tis.
cali-ti
01-20-2006, 02:32 PM
i don't read german, but there is mention of 316i in the top blurb above the photo.
Panzer_M
01-21-2006, 07:47 AM
It's a M43 SOHC engine.
USMC318ti
03-21-2006, 05:37 PM
Thats a HOT hood on the blue ti!
angel318ti
03-21-2006, 07:18 PM
Weezer, Are you a syndikat member too?
GDB
03-21-2006, 07:44 PM
It's a M43 SOHC engine.

+1.
Henry80
03-21-2006, 08:58 PM
is that the Rieger spoiler on that blue ti?
weezer
03-21-2006, 09:28 PM
No, I'm not a Syndikat member......just an admirer..:biggrin:
I am looking to install a larger or multiple throtle bodied intake on my 97 Ti.
Viper3812
03-21-2006, 09:36 PM
is that the Rieger spoiler on that blue ti?
I think it is, looks sweet!
Viper3812
03-21-2006, 09:37 PM
It's a M43 SOHC engine.

Would it be possible to swap that manifold to ours? Any different?
Etienne
03-21-2006, 09:56 PM
What is up with the gas door on the blue ti?
Panzer_M
03-21-2006, 10:04 PM
Would it be possible to swap that manifold to ours? Any different?

good question.

but first is it any better really.
Viper3812
03-21-2006, 10:23 PM
Maybe some of our Euro friends can help us out and answer the question.
Viper3812
03-22-2006, 03:20 AM
Scroll down to the middle and he tells that the m42/m43 share only the head and crank, so the intake manifold is diffferent, but we don't know if it is better or not.
http://bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=433471&page=6&highlight=M42
snwbrdrbum10
03-22-2006, 05:31 AM
318tibimmer has a link to make your hood look like that of an e46 3 series.. although it requires cutting and welding **** back. but it looks bad ass when it's all done.
GDB
03-22-2006, 07:48 PM
Scroll down to the middle and he tells that the m42/m43 share only the head and crank, so the intake manifold is diffferent, but we don't know if it is better or not.
http://bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=433471&page=6&highlight=M42

If the heads are the same, then what would prevent the manifolds from being interchangeable?
Viper3812
04-03-2006, 10:47 PM
Nothing I guess. Anyone wanna give it a shot?
the51
04-13-2006, 10:06 PM
I want that hood, but what would the intake add?
bullmand
04-13-2006, 10:22 PM
My German's a little rusty, but I believe the red car is the one he wrecked that neccesitated the purchase of the blue ti.

So für alle die sich jetzt fragen warum nur nen 316i?! - Ganz einfach als ich mit meiner E36 Limo einen nich selbstverschuldeten Unfall hatte musste schnell nen neues Auto her.

My rough translation:
So for all of you that are asking yourself why only a 316i? Simple, I was in an accident with my E36 sedan that wasn't my fault and I had to get a new car quickly.

Without knowing what engine the red car has, it's going to be hard to figure out which intake manifold that is. Incidentally, he goes on to say that another reason he picked the 316 is because he doesn't have the money to mod the ti and put gas in a 6 cylinder.
bullmand
04-14-2006, 02:59 PM
It's a M43 SOHC engine.

From poking around on www.realoem.com, this manifold only shows up on the earliest models of the 316i with the M40 engine. When the switch to the M43 happened in the mid '90s, the intake manifold was changed to one very similar to the M42/M44 with the two-stage runners and the DISA valve. Based on my understanding of how our manifolds work, and the fact that this one is for a smaller engine, I suspect that there would be no benefit to putting this part on our cars. Not to mention the constant CEL from not having the DISA valve hooked up. Does anyone know the hp and torque numbers from the M40?
John Firestone
04-15-2006, 04:49 AM
... Does anyone know the hp and torque numbers from the M40?In brief, not quite enough, but I only owned one. :wink: From the 1993 3er brochure, written when the engineers were still in charge:316i: 73kW@5500 rpm, 141 Nm@4250 rpm

318i: 83kW@5500 rpm, 162 Nm@4250 rpm
all with two-valves per cylinder and standard unleaded(!).