If that is really true, that is a huge understatement. It will take a LOT to win the community back after what happend to one of our members. Videos, real dynos, more real dynos, quality, honesty, more videos, 1/4 mile time slips, etc.


The only problem is that Joe Ghattas referred me to your website http://eatonm3.com in November. At that time, it was also called KO Performance Developement and not Midnight Autoworks. Granted it has changed in the look, but it is not new. Can you explain this?

There is one on e-bay, I was about to ask if anybody knew any thing about them.... :)

DAVE

MIdnight Autoworks website
 

#1 I will be posting close up pictures of the manifold in all angles by tomorrow night, that seems to be priority number one.
#2 I am Joseph Ghattas and I used to answer technical phone calls for KO Performance , I no longer work for KO Performance, I now work at Midnight Autoworks and I am helping them get their web site up and market the supercharger manufacture direct, after KO attempted to manufacture their own kit and called it a "revision", I began forwarding customers to the underdeveloped Midnight Autoworks website so they could purchase direct and get a kit that actually works, the other KO Performance sales rep ,Greg, also quit last week because of this "in house" supercharger ordeal. I now work for midnight Autoworks full time and I am prepared to bring to light any of the , dynos, videos ,details about the supercharger that you need before anyone here makes a decision.
#3 Because of the damage done to the name or reputation around our supercharger kit, I am offering one member, any member, any where in the U.S. the following:
We will fly to you with our stage 3 supercharger kit, let you inspect the parts completely, then we will install the system on your car from a-z and you drive the car and if you are not 100% satisfied with the kit we will uninstall it , return your car to stock absolutely free we go home and you haven’t spent a penny, if you are satisfied with the kit and completely blown away by the power of your car, you can buy the kit for $3,399 and the installation is free, we go home and you confirm to the forum that the kit is everything we promised.

Hehe cool!
I kinda like the sound of #3 there...
I'm down for it lol.

-Randy

Sounds good, dusten, u got any other Ti's laying around? To bad i aint got money or else id try it. Hey midnight auto, u guys finance?

Are you the same guys of the old site z3power? The logos are the same.

Yes same guys, back when it was just on the z3's and we were using the modified stock manifolds and fuel pressure regulators, that kit worked but wasnt as good as Downing Atlanta and not nearly as good as the kit we have today.
Z3power.com was getting less then 50 visitors per month and anyone who looked at the site was not impresed, so we took our kit to KO and offered them a nice margin on the supercharger kit, they thought the kit looked easy to reproduce on their own and decided to make it in house, etc.................
So now we are going to :market ,sell, and assemble and tech support the kit our selves and deliver top notch kits and customer service and win the 318ti forums trust.

I have a question: on the stages 2&3 what "air mass meter" do you use? Or just from what car? The pins are the same of the original Air mass meter unit connector?

You have a lot of work ahead of you. I think everyone on this forum is going to be VERY skeptical of any new product. BTW - I replied back to your personal email address.

Take a look at the KO supercharger threads, if you haven't already. L84THSKY purchased one and just got refunded recently. I think your best bet would be to give L84THSKY a smokin' deal on your setup, since he is ready to buy.

L84THSKY - I believe you dealt directly with Joe. What are your thoughts?

No doubt I am the one who should get this no strings install offer.

Joe called me last night and gave me his pitch. I'm curious if anyone sees any holes in his story. I'm gonna leave it up to you guys who are most skeptical of this kit. If you guys think I should go ahead, then I will.

But like alot of people said, get pictures and alot of technical data out for all to see, before you waste a plane trip to NY.

If you wanna make good, here is my offer.

1. You come up to NY with a stage III kit.
2. After the kit is installed and working, you go home.
3. You wait 6 months to see that the reliability holds up; no failures.
4. After 6 months I pay you for a stage II kit, not a stage III.

The free install is for your benefit; you can take all the pictures you like. If you want it dynoed, then by all means. The stage III at stage II price is for my benefit. Then, I got a good deal, after all the **** I went through.

I second L8's request. This seems very fair. If you want to sell these supercharger kits, you need to have at least one VERY satisfied customer. L8 is about as anal as they come, so this is to your advantage.

I don't know that you will need 6 months to test the kit however. This needs to be mutually beneficial, so I would suggest 1 month of testing on your car, then report back and pay for the kit.

Midnight - If you have a hang $3k out on the line for a month to sell these kits, your getting a hell of a deal. Assuming they are as high quality as you say they are.

L8 - If this goes through, I suggest a before and after dyno on your car with air/fuel monitoring. There are many dynos with the DASC, so I'd like to see how these two units compare.

I also think 6 mos is extreme- maybe 30 or 60 days. :confused:

Pat on the back
 

:biggrin: .....HEY don't I at least get a pat on the back for semi-discovering this?....heh heh heh...LOL
:wink:

if L8 gets this deal and is happy, you can put me down for purchasing a kit. Within the next few months I'll be buying a kit, for now it's probably going to be a DASC, but if there's a good alternative, I'm open.

I still haven't gotten my car yet. on Fri I'm flying up to MA to pick it up. I'm so excited. I hate paying for something and not getting to play with it.