Suspension advice needed - quickly! I've got a '98 ti (sport, so MTech stuff on it in general), whose springs were replaced by a previous owner. Said springs (unknown brand) are quite, quite short -- the can't-get-over-speed-bumps-hardly-at-all kind of short. Shocks appear to be Bilstein Sports...Sway bars appear stock... In any case, just heard from my mechanic that the cause of some noise from the left front is due to the spring being broken (!) So, I guess I'm in for at least a set of 4 new springs, and perhaps more... Can't be without my car for long (else the rental kills me), so I need to make a decision quickly :-( So, I'm soliciting advice. Basic parameters: I don't autocross/race/trackday, but definitely want something stiffer than stock, good street handling, a little lower than stock (but not so extreme as I have now): maybe 1" to 1-1/4" max at front, maybe 3/4" in back? What springs should I consider, if I just go that way? H&R, Eibach, other? Just crack the budget and get Bilstein PSS9 (costs about what the car's worth?) I know suspensions are a topic of strong opinions, and highly subjective, but I'd appreciate y'all's thoughts, anyway :-) -- Philip |
If you already have Bilstein Sports then the logical solution is to go with a set of H&R sports. That will be the cheapest way out of your problem. Beyond that it is probably the best way out given how you use the car. Like you said, there are a lot of opinions out there on suspension choices. I think the PSS9 kit is one of the best street suspensions available but it is not cheap and it does not sound like you need that. If I can help you sourcing the H&R's let me know. I would also be glad to discuss other options. Ed 772.215.4069 |
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I have H&R sports and Bilstein sports. You wouldn't believe the amount of good comments I get on how it rides, e.g. "This thing rides good for a 15 year old car". There's not too much drop in the rear so your tires don't get worn out from excessive camber, if you want bigger wheels you can still fit 17s under the car, it's a firm ride but very forgiving over speed bumps and dodgy bridges, and looks 1000x better than the stock height. I would say, as long as your not a drift bro or stance bro, H&R sport/Bilstein sport is the best package for this car. Along with Goodyear eagle GTs. Grips like a cat on carpet. BTW, if you do get them, DO NOT remove the little Nylon pieces off of the rear springs. I thought it was just for packaging, turns out it's not. I get a "thunk" from coil rub when the car flexes going up a steep driveway. Called H&R and they said they couldn't just send me the pieces. |
stiffness 1 Attachment(s) spring weight is most important. then height. check this out. |
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Where did you find the OEM rates, or the other ones? Are non of the spring rates progressive? Is the autocross setup your own personal setup? I am assuming stock sway bars are used on all setups? Also for the H&R coilovers I assume you mean "-.75" and not "-75" ? |
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That's a picture I grabbed off of bimmerforums. I do have ground control coilovers though with 500/700 weight springs. |
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Anyways I think we just hijacked the thread. woops. :rolleyes: |
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The front will be even lower, but the back will be a little higher (more rake than before is OK with me, style-wise). So maybe the clearance mid-car (where the speed bumps hit) won't be any worse, or perhaps a bit better? Just more worried, I guess, that the front bumper cover's going to get whacked even more often... Talked to a nice gent at Eibach (in case they might have some info), but they have no current listing for our cars (perhaps in the past, but not now). The theory would be that perhaps Eibachs don't have so much drop (?) Can't really find a 318ti-specific offering on the 'net anywhere... So, either I risk it and let the shop install the H&Rs, or just bail and do some coilovers. Bimmerworld has some Ground Control Koni/Eibach coil overs at $1550, Bilstein PSS9s are $1850, Bilstein PSS are $1450, and turner motorsport has some H&R-based coilovers for $1174. Lots more than the $250 I got the H&Rs for...sigh... Sorry for the whining...here are the questions for you (being a current owner of the H&Rs): how low, really, is the front? Would you happen to have a wheel-center-to-wheel-arch measurement handy? Do you find speed bumps injurious to your car's underbody? Thanks! -- Philip |
Is it possible that you could have mistakenly purchased springs for an e36 coupe, sedan or vert? I ask because someone on here installed them on their ti and while they'll physically fit, they gave the car a substantial amount of rake and I'm sure it didn't handle very well. |
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