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NiteOp 11-25-2011 07:42 PM

koni bilstien part numbers
 
Thanks to familytrucker who inspired me to search part numbers in the 2011 catalog for Koni and Bilstein. these are the part numbers for the 318ti and the other applications they apply to as well. the bilstein sports for the front of '99 328is is interesting.


Bilstien Sports 95-99 318Ti
Front Left 35-044024 Front right 35-044031
6/92-97/8 318i/s
6/92-95 325i/s
96-99 328i/s
99-02 z3 coupe
96-02 z3 roadster


Rear 24-020275
88-91 M3
85-91 all e30


Koni Sports 94-99 318ti
Fr Left 8741-1247Lsport / Fr Right 8741-1247Rsport
92-99 318 including M-technik

Rear 80-2522Sport
Rear excl. M-technik
all e30, (M3 80-2522spi), except 89-91 318i and 325i with M-tech

Shellback 02-26-2013 05:15 PM

Quick one folks...

Planning on using E36 M3 struts (gutted with new Koni Sport inserts) in the front of my TI.
Do I have to use the M3 front brakes (rotors; caliper; caliper carrier; sensor)?

My stock TI rotors, pads, and SS lines are pretty new. Just trying to save some $$$ and not buy M3 rotors; pads; sensor.
Thanks.

NiteOp 02-26-2013 09:22 PM

The M3 housing itself should bolt the Ti knuckle, I think it has been a while.

The M3 knuckle/hub is offset so you have to run all the M3 frontend together to get the steering angles all correct.

The M3 strut insert fits in the Ti strut housing...
http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=33746

The 1995 M3 springs fit in the Ti housings.

Shellback 02-26-2013 10:08 PM

Cool! I did not know I could gut the 318ti struts and use the M3 inserts! That way I can use the 318ti suspension until I have enough $ to overhaul and install the complete M3 suspension.
Thanks!

DaveKern 04-05-2013 07:58 PM

Possible to add information on the Z3M trailing arms and what they do to the rear width of the car? As I understand it, the rear subframe beam is the same dimensions as the TI one, though the Z3M is supposed to be a stronger unit.

I've changed out my front control arms to E46 ones and the car will be getting some fender flares, just wondering if going to the Z3M trailing arms might end up being a good match width wise...in addition to getting better brakes on the back too.

Thanks!

Dave

Pierre 04-07-2013 06:03 PM

Not much of a difference
 
When I installed the M roadster rear subframe in my ti, I had them both side by side. I measured both and the difference was negligible. The M subframe was beefier, control arms, axles brakes were all substantially larger but the distance between the mounting faces of the rotors was very close. You can have a much bigger variation because of wheel offsets than subframe differences.

Rjcinelli 05-23-2013 03:19 AM

H&R e36 m3 springs fit 318ti?
 
Hey guys, I found some e36 m3 H&R race springs on CL for sale and I was wondering if they'd work in the TI? I know I'll end up having to get struts or face blowing the stock ones, but I just want to be sure that the springs will fit in the front and rear. I've gotten mixed replies from people when I ask :confused: Sorry if this has been asked before but I couldn't find a clean answer. Thanks! If the springs fit I'll be picking them up Saturday.

jca 05-23-2013 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustenT (Post 117408)
Can someone help me with this one???

On your suspension faq, you mention using Bilsteins with the M-Technik sport suspension for 'comfort.'
Which Bilsteins fit the bill? Sport? HD?

The HD's I have on my base model, non-sport suspension are more firm than oem, but very comfortable.

Pierre 05-23-2013 05:42 AM

Physical fit does not mean it will work. An M3 has a heavier front than a ti. And the rear of a ti is like an E30. It may be even close in weight. The E36 rear and coupe is heavier out back.
I am using M3 front springs and struts. But again, I have an S52 in my ti. I have E30 sport springs in the back.

Rjcinelli 05-23-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 349590)
Physical fit does not mean it will work. An M3 has a heavier front than a ti. And the rear of a ti is like an E30. It may be even close in weight. The E36 rear and coupe is heavier out back.
I am using M3 front springs and struts. But again, I have an S52 in my ti. I have E30 sport springs in the back.

Okay thanks for explaining it, I'll probably hold off on it then and just get springs that are made for the car specs.

Rjcinelli 05-26-2013 05:03 AM

Okay guys so I went and bought the e36 m3 H&R race springs today, I know it's not some say it's not a good idea to put them on a 318ti but I got them very cheap. I tried every method I know to get the bolts off of the strut but cant. The only thing I can think of is using an impact gun, but I don't have one of those right now. Can anyone give me some suggestions on what's worked for you when you need to get bolts off that don't want to come off? Thanks guys, loving this forum already been reading a bunch every night in multiple different sections.

Shellback 05-26-2013 07:28 PM

cheater bar
impact

Rjcinelli 05-26-2013 10:01 PM

okay I'll give those a try

middlegati 07-01-2013 02:09 AM

hey all, would you recommend this KW coilover kit? dont wanna buy crap... but need to upgrade suspension as im getting an s52 put in my ti soon

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-11...variant-1.aspx

GoNuts 07-23-2013 03:40 PM

Just a quick question, when replacing suspension and control arms/away bar links/tie rods, do you need to replace the hubs as well? I had an e30 where this was the case, just want to make sure before I get all set up and don't have new hubs.

Thanks in advance!


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