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inlacal 06-30-2006 08:13 AM

WANTED: AFTERMARKET SWAY BAR SET
 
Group,

Anyone have an aftermarket sway bar setup they'd like to part with?

Any recommendations on where I could get a set and which set to get?

Thanks,

TORJTHM 06-30-2006 09:42 AM

i found a set for front and back in a kit at this site for the ti
http://www.autowerks.com/xcart/custo...cat=639&page=1

Viper3812 06-30-2006 01:08 PM

2 other options are Racing Dynamics and H&R

inlacal 06-30-2006 04:00 PM

Sway bar welding reinforcements?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TORJTHM
i found a set for front and back in a kit at this site for the ti
http://www.autowerks.com/xcart/custo...cat=639&page=1

Any idea if any welding is necessary to reinforce anything in the rear on the Ti? On my e30 M3 the rear tabs at the control arms would snap right off, the moment you made a hard turn, after installing uprated sway bars.

I'm not familiar with the Ti's rear geometry, but I know it is similar to the e30 if not the same.

Please advise,
Chris

bullmand 06-30-2006 04:08 PM

Chris,
I've always heard that this is a possible problem on the ti also, but I've never heard of anyone that actually had this happen. From what I've read this is much more likely to happen if you are using the upgraded swaybars and stock springs. When the Eibach site used to have parts for the ti listed, their kit specifically stated it was only to be used in conjunction with their springs. BTW, another option for upgrading the sways is to use the front from a sport package ti and the rear from a Z3 M roadster or coupe. These are 19 mm I believe. Others who have done this say that it really helps make the car more neutral. There's a thread on the Yahoo group with part numbers, etc. I don't have access to it right now. Hope this helps.

inlacal 06-30-2006 04:20 PM

Factory Sport Front Swaybar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bullmand
Chris,
I've always heard that this is a possible problem on the ti also, but I've never heard of anyone that actually had this happen. From what I've read this is much more likely to happen if you are using the upgraded swaybars and stock springs. When the Eibach site used to have parts for the ti listed, their kit specifically stated it was only to be used in conjunction with their springs. BTW, another option for upgrading the sways is to use the front from a sport package ti and the rear from a Z3 M roadster or coupe. These are 19 mm I believe. Others who have done this say that it really helps make the car more neutral. There's a thread on the Yahoo group with part numbers, etc. I don't have access to it right now. Hope this helps.

David,

Excellent information...Since I have the factory sport package (1997) I guess I'll stick with the front bar then. After all, I'm not racing the car:)

I'd upgrade t

inlacal 06-30-2006 04:22 PM

Factory Sport Front Swaybar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bullmand
Chris,
I've always heard that this is a possible problem on the ti also, but I've never heard of anyone that actually had this happen. From what I've read this is much more likely to happen if you are using the upgraded swaybars and stock springs. When the Eibach site used to have parts for the ti listed, their kit specifically stated it was only to be used in conjunction with their springs. BTW, another option for upgrading the sways is to use the front from a sport package ti and the rear from a Z3 M roadster or coupe. These are 19 mm I believe. Others who have done this say that it really helps make the car more neutral. There's a thread on the Yahoo group with part numbers, etc. I don't have access to it right now. Hope this helps.

David,

Excellent information...Since I have the factory sport package (1997) I guess I'll stick with the front bar then. After all, I'm not racing the car:)

I'd upgrade the springs and the swaybars, but I have no luck with spring upgrades. No matter my research, the car always end up being ridiculously/stupidly too low and then you end up grinding the frame rails over anything you drive over...

bullmand 07-01-2006 06:50 PM

Here's the message from the Yahoo group. I just want to get this up here for future reference.

I've used the M Coupe 19mm rear sway bar with an otherwise stock 318ti sport suspension. It works very well at reducing the tendency to understeer,
but without making the car tail-happy.

Here's the part numbers for stuff that's different:
(1) 33 55 2 693 754 19mm rear stabilizer bar
(2) 33 55 1 094 551 19mm mounting bushings
(2) 31 35 1 124 995 Support straps for above bushings

Part numbers for the rest of the linkage hardware (same as original, but
not a bad idea to replace):
(4) 31 33 1 092 887 Self-locking M8 collar nuts
(2) 33 55 1 135 307 Stabilizer end links <<<good idea to get new
(2) 33 32 1 127 717 End link brackets *
(2) 07 11 9 912 501 M8x43 hex bolts
(2) 07 12 9 964 655 Self-locking M8 nuts *

* I haven't tried this, but some people have reported using the stronger
end link bracket from the front stabilizer in place of the original brackets
listed above:
(2) 31 35 1 127 263 End link brackets
(2) 31 11 1 114 348 A10, 5x22 Flat washer
(2) 07 12 9 964 672 Self-locking M10 nuts

People with stock M-Coupes have been breaking the attachment tabs on the
trailing arms (just like the E30's with aftermarket bars), so I would highly
recommend welding in reinforcements when using this bar. Dinan sells
prefabricated pieces of sheet metal to do this, but anybody that can weld
could probably come up with some suitable pieces on their own.
Brian.


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