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M4YTY 03-30-2008 07:57 PM

E36 M3 calipers fit ti?
 
Ive found some E36 m3 front calipers for next to nothing in a scrap yard where I live. What I need to know is if they will fit my stock 1998 sport stub axels (ie are they a bolt on replacement?) I have vented brakes as standard. Searched the forum and found no reference to them. The axels on the M3 are toast so I cant use them. Any clues would be great. Cheers Matty

M4YTY 03-30-2008 07:58 PM

I forgot to mention I have 17's on so clearance shouldn't be an issue.

mohaughn 03-30-2008 09:51 PM

No. M3 hubs are different then E36 non-m3 hubs.

To use E36 M3 front brake rotors you need M3 hubs/axles.

Bluebimma 03-30-2008 10:26 PM

http://www.318ti.org/forum/showpost....2&postcount=62
http://www.318ti.org/forum/showpost....0&postcount=65

Rears youd need mcoupe/roadster trailing arms and hub assemblies.

M4YTY 03-31-2008 08:59 PM

BLUEBIMMER, did you notice much difference with the M3 setup?

Bluebimma 03-31-2008 09:33 PM

I hadnt driven the car in about 10 months prior to the install plus i installed the m50 engine, so i cant really comment on the before and after, but i can definately say that it stops the car quite nicely from 80-0 and you cant feel the weight from the and extra weight of the engine. Brake pedal feel is great as well.

mohaughn 03-31-2008 09:47 PM

You won't really notice a difference in daily street driving. The improvements come about through better cooling because of the vented rotors.

Your tires are really the limiting factors in braking. At some point your tires will lock up. Your tires will lock up at the same point with a BBK, stock Ti brakes, or M3 brakes.

You may notice some differences in pedal modulation, but I wouldn't expect to much of a difference if you are staying with a sliding caliper. Aftermarket fixed calipers give a much better and more consistent feel because the caliper design is better. Which is again probably something that most drivers would not notice in normal street driving.

M4YTY 04-01-2008 06:46 PM

Thanks for all the info guys. Smoe good stuff to bear in mind. Cheers

Massive Lee 04-16-2008 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mohaughn (Post 163714)
No. M3 hubs are different then E36 non-m3 hubs.

To use E36 M3 front brake rotors you need M3 hubs/axles.

Actually, the problem is that the spindles are different even though the bearings are exactly the same. On the M3 spindles, the two caliper pick-up points are more inward by about 7mm (less than 1/4"). Also, the radius on which the mounting holes are located on radius 2mm bigger for the regular e36.

And yes, M3 spindles must be used.

Bearings are the same across this line up of cars.

Part 31226757024 (WHEEL HUB, FRONT, SYMMETRIC) was found on the following vehicles:

E36: Details on E36
E36 318i CONVERTIBLE
E36 318i SEDAN
E36 318is COUPE
E36 318ti COMPACT
E36 320i SEDAN
E36 323i CONVERTIBLE
E36 323i COUPE
E36 325i SEDAN
E36 325i CONVERTIBLE
E36 325is COUPE
E36 328i SEDAN
E36 328i CONVERTIBLE
E36 328i COUPE
E36 M3 COUPE
E36 M3 SEDAN
E36 M3 CONVERTIBLE

E46: Details on E46
E46 320i SEDAN
E46 323Ci COUPE
E46 323Ci CONVERTIBLE
E46 323i TOURING
E46 323i SEDAN
E46 325Ci CONVERTIBLE
E46 325Ci COUPE
E46 325i TOURING
E46 325i SEDAN
E46 328Ci COUPE
E46 328i SEDAN
E46 330Ci COUPE
E46 330Ci CONVERTIBLE
E46 330i SEDAN

E85: Details on E85
E85 Z4 2.5i ROADSTER
E85 Z4 3.0i ROADSTER
E85 Z4 3.0si ROADSTER

E86: Details on E86
E86 Z4 3.0si COUPE

Z3: Details on Z3
Z3 Z3 1.9 ROADSTER
Z3 Z3 2.5 ROADSTER
Z3 Z3 2.5i ROADSTER
Z3 Z3 2.8 ROADSTER
Z3 Z3 2.8 COUPE
Z3 Z3 3.0i ROADSTER
Z3 Z3 3.0i COUPE
Z3 Z3 M ROADSTER
Z3 Z3 M COUPE


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