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surechap 06-16-2013 12:37 AM

Missing Vacuum hoses?
 
I noticed my egr valve was pinging again, so I decided to check the parts catalog to get a price check. That's when I noticed I was missing quite a bit of my vacuum system.
http://realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/d/u/9.png

When I first bought the car the air pump was busted and I had a dirty egr valve. Also one of the hoses was busted and not connected. I put two and two together and just connected a new hose where I thought it would go, directly to the engine. Hose 9 in that case would go straight to where hose 1 would be skipping parts 2-8.

Is this just a fault in the diagram am I really missing parts parts 2-8? My 318ti is 1997. I mean how could the previous owner lose that much? Also, could this be the reason why my egr valve keeps getting stuck and my fuel economy is bad?

Here's what is described in the diagram I just copied and pasted from the parts site.
No. Description Supplement Qty From Up To Part Number Price Notes Photo
01 Hose 470MM 1 11731435862 $27.44 +core
02 T-CONNECTOR 1 11721439973 $1.07
03 VACUUM HOSE BLACK 3,5X1,8 1 11727545323 $14.82
03 VACUUM HOSE BLACK 3,3X1,75 1 51731257971 ENDED
03 VACUUM HOSE BLACK 3,3X1,8 1 11747797175 ENDED
04 non-return valve 1 11611312737 $17.70
05 VACUUM HOSE WHITE 3,3X7 1 51731259951 ENDED
05 VACUUM HOSE WHITE 3,3X1,8 1 11747797177 $17.14
06 Rubber Mounting 1 13411705564 $2.40 +core
07 CONTAINER 1 11611312762 $7.60
08 Bracket, vacuum reservoir TLEV 1 11731433822 $5.84
09 VACUUM HOSE WHITE 3,3X7 1 51731259951 ENDED
09 VACUUM HOSE WHITE 3,3X1,8 1 11747797177 $17.14

pilsberry 09-16-2014 02:59 AM

Missing items
 
Surechap,
I'm having similar issues. The line from exhaust check valve runs directly to valve cover vacuum connection instead of electronic control unit.

I will post if I learn anything.

Let me know if you were able to resolve your problems.
Thanks,
Bryan
I'm having air pump issues and cam position sensor errors that seem to be related, but not sure.

surechap 09-16-2014 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilsberry (Post 366225)
Surechap,
I'm having similar issues. The line from exhaust check valve runs directly to valve cover vacuum connection instead of electronic control unit.

I will post if I learn anything.

Let me know if you were able to resolve your problems.
Thanks,
Bryan
I'm having air pump issues and cam position sensor errors that seem to be related, but not sure.

Pilsberry, it's been a while, but I'll try to remember. The diagram is correct the rest of it is hidden under the manifold.

surechap 09-16-2014 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilsberry (Post 366225)
Surechap,
I'm having similar issues. The line from exhaust check valve runs directly to valve cover vacuum connection instead of electronic control unit.

I will post if I learn anything.

Let me know if you were able to resolve your problems.
Thanks,
Bryan
I'm having air pump issues and cam position sensor errors that seem to be related, but not sure.

Pilsberry, it's been a while, but I'll try to remember. The diagram is correct the rest of it is hidden under the manifold. Hose 9 does connect to 7 even though 7 is represented in the diagram inaccurately; it's opening is actually horizontal like the rest of the cylinder. Look up my old post on how to solve the pump issue. Also it's a good idea to clean the egr or replace it.

pilsberry 09-16-2014 02:16 PM

Vacuum mystery
 
Surechap,
Thanks for response. Your info solves part of my problem in that the items are hidden.
But, those two hoses on the electronic valve (10) both run back under the manifold (on my car). Also on my car, hose 13 runs to a barb on the front of the intake manifold. This is in error I think, as it applies suction to the EGR valve all the time. But I don't know what I would do with the other hose that would be freed up if I connect 13 to 10. I need to find out what this vacuum source is supposed to attach to. It is currently holding the valve open at all time and ruining my air pumps.
Thanks,
Bryan

pilsberry 09-16-2014 02:37 PM

Update
 
So, I swapped the hoses and noted little change in engine performance. Perhaps a high idle but the engine is cold. I would still like to confirm this is correct as I see no reference to the vacuum source on the front of the manifold.


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