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Jean H.318TI 08-18-2009 03:08 AM

Jean's Turbo Build - 318TTi
 
well as some of u guys know i always wanted to turbo my lil TI but never really have some1 with a good tunning but now that johnboy is done with his turbo and running good im gonna get on this and start the turbo build, is not gonna be even close to what johnboy have but is good for me.

gonna use the same OBX turbo manifold
HKS SQV
TIAL wastegate 44mm
MITSUBISHI turbo T3
HKS turbo timer
27"x7"x2.5" intercooler delta fin 2.5" in/out.
2.5" intercooler piping
Silicone hoses
Heavy Duty Spring Loaded T-Bolt Clamps
electronic boost controller (not sure what brand)
Lucas 42.8# Blue Strip injectors
Injector adaptors (Metric)
M3 MAF sensor
2.5" > 3" boot to connect new MAF in system.
Co2 intercooler sprayer (no tune) just to help with the heat soak on hot days or before/after a run on the track/street
and all the other random stuff like the oil/water lines and everything else

and im also gonna run with open wastegate, so is gonna be super loud (only WOT) lol :biggrin:

is gonna take few months until i get all the parts, i already order some of the stuff tho, so maybe by winter or before we are gonna have another turbo TI :rolleyes: and im only gonna run 14psi tops and 8psi DD (shooting for 200+whp @14psi)

cant wait for this to be done but money is kinda low, around 200month to spend on this so yeah is gonna take some time, any donations are welcome :wink:

tiFreak 08-18-2009 03:20 AM

nice, can't wait to see it

acevedo12 08-18-2009 03:27 AM

like your Ti isn't bad ass enough! this thing is gonna be awesome

Jean H.318TI 08-18-2009 05:03 AM

i know but we always need more and more power lol

xxxJohnBoyxxx 08-18-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean H.318TI (Post 241283)
well as some of u guys know i always wanted to turbo my lil TI but never really have some1 with a good tunning but now that johnboy is done with his turbo and running good im gonna get on this and start the turbo build, is not gonna be even close to what johnboy have but is good for me.

gonna use the same OBX turbo manifold
HKS Super SQV
TIAL wastegate 44mm
MITSUBISHI turbo T3
HKS turbo timer
27"x7"x2.5" intercooler delta fin 2.5" in/out. - black
2.5" intercooler piping - black,
Silicone hoses black
Heavy Duty Spring Loaded T-Bolt Clamps
Turbo Oil Scavenge Pump
electronic boost controller (not sure what brand)
Co2 intercooler sprayer (no tune) just to help with the heat soak on hot days or before/after a run on the track/street
and all the other random stuff like the oil/water lines and everything else

and im also gonna run with open wastegate, so is gonna be super loud (only WOT) lol :biggrin:

is gonna take few months until i get all the parts, i already order some of the stuff tho, so maybe by winter or before we are gonna have another turbo TI :rolleyes: and im only gonna run 14psi tops and 8psi DD (shooting for 200+whp @14psi)

cant wait for this to be done but money is kinda low, around 400month to spend on this so yeah is gonna take some time, any donations are welcome :wink:

I'm pround of you. You will be way over 200whp @ 14psi since you won't be turning a supercharger for your boost. I'm running the MITSUBISHI T3 are you going for a 30 or 28. Do you already have your A/R's like .63 for exhaust and .57 compressor?

I know where to get a excellent oil scavenger pump if you want one.

I'm excited for you in a non-gay way

xxxJohnBoyxxx 08-18-2009 12:32 PM

Jean,

Three things right off the batt and I might be telling you stuff you already know.

1. On the turbo make sure the exhaust is a standard 4 bolt. Mitsubishi turbo's have the TDO5 flange so you need to be sure the turbo has been converted to a standard 4 bolt unless your going to weld V-clamps and forget about matching bolt patterns...

2. On the OBX manifold. When you purchase the manifold make sure the down-pipe flange is standard 4 bolt or matches your turbo. The down pipe I received was 4 bolt but some flange size that no turbo shop could identify so I had to cut it off and weld on the correct flange.

3. I think you will need some 3" pipe for the turbo intake to air filter

xxxJohnBoyxxx 08-18-2009 12:42 PM

Items needed for tuning your car.

4 ~ Lucas 42.8# Blue Strip injectors
4 ~ Injector adaptors (Metric)
1 ~ 1995 ~ M3 or 328i MAF sensor
1 ~ 2.5" x 3" boot to connect new MAF in system.

From the MAF to the throttle body it needs to be 3". The tuning for up to 20psi uses the 42.8# injectors and M3 MAF. BOV needs to be placed before the MAF so the BOV air is not metered

You will need to pay Mark for the Firmware, I can do the DME work for free

budget76 08-18-2009 03:54 PM

Jean, the car is going to be sick


And John, I have to give you props again for being so incredibly willing to help everyone on this board and spread your knowledge to us:cool:

Jean H.318TI 08-18-2009 09:11 PM

@ john
thanks for ur help on everything and ur right i totally forgot about the fuel system, injectors and MAF and i order the intercooler with 2.5" out, so im gonna have to buy adapter and some other stuff. also r u runing stock fuel pump, and fuel rail?

whenever im about to buy the turbo and oil scavenger pump ill shoot u a pm

how much u think would be for the injector, injectors adapters and the firmware, DME work?

also thanks again for being so incredibly willing to help ;)

xxxJohnBoyxxx 08-19-2009 12:41 AM

The 2.5 x 3" hose is on Ebay.

Injectors maybe $150 for the set or less. I've seen a set for $129 shipped
Injector adaptors not sure but can't see more then $40
Firmware is a standard tune so I seriously doubt he will ding you on it, you could choose a TT stage 3 tune but it might be lean in the upper RPM.

Yes I run a stock fuel pump but I'm most likely going to change to a bolt in Mustang GT version. You will be fine with stock fuel pump. Yes use stock fuel rail since the adapters will fit all EV style injectors to your rail & manifold.

Jean H.318TI 08-19-2009 01:06 AM

thanks again and again

lpcapital 08-19-2009 09:33 PM

Just bought a set of injectors adapters from MM for $60... Good luck with the project!!! With John is not a matter of luck , since it will happen, but still... ehehe

Be cerefull with CO2 spray: it might have the very unwanted side effect of having CO2 drwan into the air intake causing HP to dorp...

xxxJohnBoyxxx 08-19-2009 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lpcapital (Post 241489)
Just bought a set of injectors adapters from MM for $60...

I have not seen their adapters. Are they aluminum or brass?

lpcapital 08-19-2009 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxJohnBoyxxx (Post 241503)
I have not seen their adapters. Are they aluminum or brass?

I haven't seen them either sine I'm still waiting for them to come in... I order them the same day all your hell broke loose and there was some delay with my shipment (they knew I was in no rush and I told them I only needed them by the end of the month). I'll post pix one I get them

Jean H.318TI 08-22-2009 12:48 AM

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loook what i got on the mail today 27"x7"x2.5" :biggrin:

tiFreak 08-22-2009 01:55 AM

awesome, all you have to do is just stick it behind the bumper, then everyone will think you have a turbo ;)

713bmw318ti 08-22-2009 02:04 AM

Your car is gonna be a beast.

Jean H.318TI 08-22-2009 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tiFreak (Post 241868)
awesome, all you have to do is just stick it behind the bumper, then everyone will think you have a turbo ;)

hahahaha yeah that would be hella funny

xxxJohnBoyxxx 08-22-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean H.318TI (Post 241856)
loook what i got on the mail today 27"x7"x2.5" :biggrin:

That is the good one. "Delta fin". Best you can get currently:wink:

Jean H.318TI 08-25-2009 01:15 AM

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i know, dont have anything to do with the turbo but helps with the traction :tongue:


245/40/17 hankook R-S2

BMW_Hatchback 08-25-2009 05:19 AM

Now I hate you!

xxxJohnBoyxxx 08-25-2009 01:38 PM

I bet those will hook real good.:biggrin:

I bet you can put down over 300hp at the flywheel and light those up

milehigh96caliti 08-25-2009 06:55 PM

Jean...Sean is going to be stoked when he sees this thread. I've been printing them out and mailing them to him. I know he's itching to come home and start working on Zippy...this will give him added incentive! :biggrin:

Jean H.318TI 09-19-2009 01:39 AM

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few more parts wastegate 44mm, and waiting for the T3 turbo and the Greddy turbo timer full auto, and buying the turbo manifold and down pipe soon and the intercooler piping :wink:

Jean H.318TI 09-19-2009 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxJohnBoyxxx (Post 242167)
I bet those will hook real good.:biggrin:

I bet you can put down over 300hp at the flywheel and light those up

yeah this tires have really really good grip :eek: but i would love to have 300hp and light these up all the time :biggrin:

Jean H.318TI 09-19-2009 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nineironkitty (Post 242187)
Jean...Sean is going to be stoked when he sees this thread. I've been printing them out and mailing them to him. I know he's itching to come home and start working on Zippy...this will give him added incentive! :biggrin:


hopefuly he can be out and working on zippy really really soon and i hope i can finish this project soon, cant wait :rolleyes:

xxxJohnBoyxxx 09-19-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean H.318TI (Post 244690)
few more parts wastegate 44mm, and waiting for the T3 turbo and the Greddy turbo timer full auto, and buying the turbo manifold and down pipe soon and the intercooler piping :wink:

Put a small spring in there. Like a 10psi. You can only boost a tiny bit lower then the spring psi but can double the boost of the spring.

I run a 15psi which if I put boost to lower port I get 10psi. If I put boost to the top port I can go over 30psi. I have a 8psi spring here I was saving for Yoda but you can have it if you need it. It fits all Tial style wastegates

Jean H.318TI 09-19-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxJohnBoyxxx (Post 244712)
Put a small spring in there. Like a 10psi. You can only boost a tiny bit lower then the spring psi but can double the boost of the spring.

I run a 15psi which if I put boost to lower port I get 10psi. If I put boost to the top port I can go over 30psi. I have a 8psi spring here I was saving for Yoda but you can have it if you need it. It fits all Tial style wastegates

the wastegate came with a 15psi spring and is adjustable from 10-15 and another 14psi spring and they said that can be adjusted from 10 - 29psi but idk maybe ill use the 8psi just to be safe and not over boost

xxxJohnBoyxxx 09-20-2009 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean H.318TI (Post 244733)
the wastegate came with a 15psi spring and is adjustable from 10-15 and another 14psi spring and they said that can be adjusted from 10 - 29psi but idk maybe ill use the 8psi just to be safe and not over boost

If you pu in the 8psi spring then your boost range is arounf 4 ~ 16psi. I would put the 14psi spring in there so you would have 9 ~ 28.

9psi your daily driving boost pressure and jump to 15psi for passing on highway, since I don't condone street racing anymore, but still do it when the conditions are right:wink:

Are you using a manual or electronic boost controller?

Also 8psi spring is yours if you want it. It's the blue Tial small sring that fits in the middle of the big spring. Let me know and I will ship it to you

Jean H.318TI 09-20-2009 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxJohnBoyxxx (Post 244752)
If you pu in the 8psi spring then your boost range is arounf 4 ~ 16psi. I would put the 14psi spring in there so you would have 9 ~ 28.

9psi your daily driving boost pressure and jump to 15psi for passing on highway, since I don't condone street racing anymore, but still do it when the conditions are right:wink:

Are you using a manual or electronic boost controller?

Also 8psi spring is yours if you want it. It's the blue Tial small sring that fits in the middle of the big spring. Let me know and I will ship it to you


well im gonna do whatever u think is better so i guess i would just keep the 14psi spring, and run 9psi DD and 14psi for FUNNN:rolleyes:

I was gonna use a electronic boost controller, what do u recomend?

xxxJohnBoyxxx 09-20-2009 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean H.318TI (Post 244758)
well im gonna do whatever u think is better so i guess i would just keep the 14psi spring, and run 9psi DD and 14psi for FUNNN:rolleyes:

I was gonna use a electronic boost controller, what do u recomend?


Electronic all the way:tongue: Gizzmo MS-IBC is what I run and I love it. Swap the springs and put the 14psi spring in there, it's only 1 psi but worth it. By the way they are real fun to change by yourself so you might want someone to help you...

If you got the same turbo as me you will need to make a little room for it. Grind the block casting a little and the bottom left motor mount bolt head needs to be cut down a little for perfect fitment. The block grind does not remove any material that is important as you will find when you do it. It's just an area were the casting is very thick and hits the exhaust housing on the turbo.

Remember to make sure you get the correct down pipe bolt flange so you don't have to get changed like I did. The OBX manifold comes with the down pipe in the kit, that flange needs to be a standard 4 bolt turbo exhaust flange on that down pipe

Also if you figure out how to install the waste gate dump pipe I want pictures since I was unable to get one on mine without firewall fabrication (too lazy to do it). My waste gate dumps right out the waste gate dump toward the back of the transmission....No worries since it doesn't dump much or for too long. 1,500 miles and no exhaust marks or burns anywhere from the dump...

I think I'm going to have to go to church tomorrow:wink: with the camera mounted inside so I can show you what 14.7psi is like. Remember my car is low compression so yours at the same boost will be a little more powerful. I'm sure you will have problems sleeping a night until your project is completed after you see this video:biggrin:

Best, John S

Jean H.318TI 09-20-2009 11:03 PM

this is the turbo manifold im gonna buy and i see a 4 bolt flange for the down pipe. is this the right 1?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-T...Q5fAccessories


i already have the 14psi spring on the wastegate and yeah is a PITA.


can wait for the video and to be done with this project but i have to wait till i get money every month to buy the parts and stuff so is gonna take a long time, and i cant sleep already just by watching some videos of ur car with the 14psi dash and the first turbo start and missing my srt4 stage 2 :(

Jean H.318TI 09-21-2009 02:43 AM

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done installing the turbo timer :rolleyes: works great and really easy install

tiFreak 09-21-2009 03:14 AM

cool, that will come in useful on your NA engine :p at least if you have someone else drive your car it will screw with them when they turn the key off :lol:

AR Black 09-21-2009 03:25 AM

wow , great proyect

xxxJohnBoyxxx 09-21-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean H.318TI (Post 244818)
this is the turbo manifold im gonna buy and i see a 4 bolt flange for the down pipe. is this the right 1?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-T...Q5fAccessories


i already have the 14psi spring on the wastegate and yeah is a PITA.


can wait for the video and to be done with this project but i have to wait till i get money every month to buy the parts and stuff so is gonna take a long time, and i cant sleep already just by watching some videos of ur car with the 14psi dash and the first turbo start and missing my srt4 stage 2 :(


Just from eyeing that it looks like the smaller flange and that is the same guy I bought my manifold from. I would ask him if that is a standard 4 bolt flange for a .63 exhaust housing before you purchase

xxxJohnBoyxxx 09-21-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean H.318TI (Post 244826)
done installing the turbo timer :rolleyes: works great and really easy install

Was that a 3 wire install? If so what 3 wire did you tap into. I tried it on mine and everything stays on but the EWS cuts the fuel and spark....

Jean H.318TI 09-21-2009 02:16 PM

Yeah it was a 3 wire install, well actually 5, ground and e-brake safety (optional), just tap the red, green, and purple wire from the ignition on the steering column,

So far the car stays on until whatever time the turbo timer says is gonna stay on and then turns off when the time's up, I can even lock the car and roll up the windows and stuff and the car keep runing just fine, hope this can help

Jean H.318TI 09-21-2009 02:26 PM

I have pics of the whole process (turbo timer install) maybe some1 can write a nice HOW TO, just let me know and I can send the pics

xxxJohnBoyxxx 09-21-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean H.318TI (Post 244865)
Yeah it was a 3 wire install, well actually 5, ground and e-brake safety (optional), just tap the red, green, and purple wire from the ignition on the steering column,

So far the car stays on until whatever time the turbo timer says is gonna stay on and then turns off when the time's up, I can even lock the car and roll up the windows and stuff and the car keep runing just fine, hope this can help

I will look at mine again. I did the 5 wire. Maybe I swapped green and purple and thats the problem. IDK

If you got it working, I must get mine working:rolleyes:


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