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cooljess76 07-13-2011 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Crashaddict (Post 304767)
FAIL
google 13btt. I owned a Mazdaspeed 3, but thats not the motor im talking about, The Speed3 has a 2.3 MZR DISI The 3rd gen RX7 is the home of the 13btt A 1.3L Rotary, and is a rear wheel configuration....i may be a little overzealous about this project, but im not an idiot.
also my speed 3 was pushing 320whp and 350ft/lbs @18psi(Smoked my buddy's S52 swap all day).....i would totally put that in a Ti if it werent transverse

I did search and I found this:
http://www.edmunds.com/mazda/mazdasp...tyle=101347777

Didn't know what the 13btt came out of because i don't really care about Mazda's or any FWD cars for that matter and all you mentioned in your original post was the speed 3 which is a fwd car. But hey, I'm all for thinking outside the box, I say go for it!

dahamler 07-13-2011 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashaddict (Post 304767)
FAIL
google 13btt. I owned a Mazdaspeed 3, but thats not the motor im talking about, The Speed3 has a 2.3 MZR DISI The 3rd gen RX7 is the home of the 13btt A 1.3L Rotary, and is a rear wheel configuration....i may be a little overzealous about this project, but im not an idiot.
also my speed 3 was pushing 320whp and 350ft/lbs @18psi(Smoked my buddy's S52 swap all day).....i would totally put that in a Ti if it werent transverse

Really?, 320 hp & 350 ft/lbs to the front wheels @18 pounds? Certainly not on the stock turbo I would say more like 260 hp 280 ft/lbs and with that my friend I would be showing you my taillights all day long being that the MS3 weighs around 3200 lbs. To be honest I'll line up with you even if you dynoed at 320/350.

The fastest MS3 I have seen ran a 12.3 at 115 with 400 whp. My best time with my 332ti was a 12.8 @ 110 with about 35 hp less than its running now.

So back to the 13btt, I think that $ for $ an modded S52 will be a better investment. It will weigh less, be more reliable and make better power than the 13btt. After the custom mounts, wiring, and engine upgrades to make it perform better than a S52 would be a waste of $.

LS1 in a 318ti in my opinion is also a waste. The normal E36 chassis is a much better candidate to maximize the performance potential of the V8.

Crashaddict 07-13-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dahamler (Post 304787)
Really?, 320 hp & 350 ft/lbs to the front wheels @18 pounds? Certainly not on the stock turbo I would say more like 260 hp 280 ft/lbs and with that my friend I would be showing you my taillights all day long being that the MS3 weighs around 3200 lbs. To be honest I'll line up with you even if you dynoed at 320/350.

The fastest MS3 I have seen ran a 12.3 at 115 with 400 whp. My best time with my 332ti was a 12.8 @ 110 with about 35 hp less than its running now.

So back to the 13btt, I think that $ for $ an modded S52 will be a better investment. It will weigh less, be more reliable and make better power than the 13btt. After the custom mounts, wiring, and engine upgrades to make it perform better than a S52 would be a waste of $.

LS1 in a 318ti in my opinion is also a waste. The normal E36 chassis is a much better candidate to maximize the performance potential of the V8.

i already said this wasnt a thread about my MS3 vs your Ti. and i used to run mid 12's all day. i could go through every single modification on my old car to show you how i got that power out of 18psi, but that would be a waste of time, because idgaf. the car is long gone by now. This is about a ti

as for your point....thats nice, but i think its clear that i dont want an s52. I like the ingenuity of the wankel and thats that

slow_ti 07-13-2011 04:35 PM

S52 FTMFW ;)

Crashaddict 07-13-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by slow_ti (Post 304807)
S52 FTMFW ;)

Yawn

slow_ti 07-13-2011 05:08 PM

bahaha^ clearly you did his swap WRONG lol

Crashaddict 07-13-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by slow_ti (Post 304809)
bahaha^ clearly you did his swap WRONG lol

I clearly didn't do much. I was just there to help out every now and then.....why don't you go waste your time talking about something else, this isn't a thread about an s52 swap now is it? Once again. Yawn

slow_ti 07-13-2011 05:14 PM

im grounded for 3 weeks and im at home, so not much else to do.

dahamler 07-13-2011 05:48 PM

This guy has to be a troll. He will never do the 13btt swap and I doubt his story about the MS3. I'm all about having a good discussion but don't come here blowing smoke because we will call you on it.

BimmerBum 07-13-2011 07:23 PM

You can't judge an S52 swapped ti on a bad example of one... the S52 in a ti is a tried and true swap. Done right, with the battery in the back and the larger diff the balance remains pretty close to stock. As stated previously, BMW did this set up in the S52 M Roadster and M Coupe, not to mention the 323ti... That said, I like seeing different set ups, so have at it!

Crashaddict 07-13-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dahamler (Post 304815)
This guy has to be a troll. He will never do the 13btt swap and I doubt his story about the MS3. I'm all about having a good discussion but don't come here blowing smoke because we will call you on it.

not a troll, am actually doing this swap soon, i almost have the money for the motor now. And as for the MS3, i dont care if you dont believe me. I DONT HAVE THE CAR ANYMORE!!! that part of my life is over, next chapter Eurotary Ti-Rx. i have an art student buddy of mine coming up with a badge emblem for me

and of all things for me to troll about, why would it be about putting a rotary in my old bimmer? listen to yourself for a minute, you are just hating

Crashaddict 07-14-2011 09:17 PM

Step 1: Stripping the interior and shampooing and scrubbing the carpet....this sucks in the florida Sun. I Bought a sweet lil shopvac put about 6 hours into the passenger compartment floor alone. Any advise on Upholstery guys? mine is ruined at this point. Id like to just buy new seats, but they are HARD to find

trikzta 07-14-2011 10:46 PM

whre in So FL are you, seats arent that hard to find i found a pair of pretty decent sport black leather coupe e36 seats for 100 bucks here in miami

Crashaddict 07-15-2011 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by trikzta (Post 304891)
whre in So FL are you, seats arent that hard to find i found a pair of pretty decent sport black leather coupe e36 seats for 100 bucks here in miami

ive been checking out craigslist for a little while now, there are a few black seats here and there, but i need beige. Im in N.Broward btw

Bluebimma 07-15-2011 05:21 AM

Id like to see the outcome of this swap, been contemplating a turbo 4 in my beater ti, just dont know what to do other than boost the M42....Sr20det sounds yummy though ;)


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