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DustenT 05-16-2007 06:28 PM

IMPORTANT: Two plastic cooling system parts that WILL break.
 
I've seen way too many threads asking about these parts, so I'll create a new thread and make it a sticky.

Please note: If you haven't replaced these parts, they will crack and blow coolant everywhere. If you drive your car while this is happening, you will overheat it and warp the head. If you car overheats, DON'T DRIVE IT. PERIOD!!

#9 in this picture: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...61&hg=11&fg=15

#1 in this picture: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...58&hg=11&fg=10

ATF 05-16-2007 06:49 PM

2 Attachment(s)
I'm bored.. Parts are highlighted in Red :)

tastade 08-22-2007 03:53 PM

Just to add: the M42 engine only needs the part labeled as #1. The part labeled as #9 is not on the M42 as the hose goes directly into the head.

CirrusSR22 08-24-2007 12:26 AM

Here's pictures of the connector for the back of the head:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2...onnector1a.jpg
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http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2...onnector1b.jpg

And the side of the block:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../coolant2a.jpg
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http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../coolant2b.jpg

Boxy 11-06-2007 07:03 AM

I've had to replace both of those on my 96'. Number 1 just popped lately, and overheated.

Had to have the warped head machined and the valves reseated.
Part: 10$
Head job: 2,500$
Lesson: Priceless. :]

cev12 11-15-2007 11:02 PM

Are there metal replacements for these?

mohaughn 11-15-2007 11:14 PM

Nope. And I've still not found anybody with an M42 that had the longer pipe break. The really common failure is the Y shaped pipe on the M44. It breaks at the Y. Doesn't seem like the other one is as flimsy.. Needless to say, I still keep one in my box of spares..

But if you have an M44 you should replace both if you are going to do it.

Boxy 11-16-2007 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mohaughn (Post 142242)
Nope. And I've still not found anybody with an M42 that had the longer pipe break. The really common failure is the Y shaped pipe on the M44. It breaks at the Y. Doesn't seem like the other one is as flimsy.. Needless to say, I still keep one in my box of spares..

But if you have an M44 you should replace both if you are going to do it.

Mohaughn, I just recently had the longer one break. The nipple sticking straight up completely broke off at the bottom ridge. As well as the Y shaped one broke off in the same manor nearly a year ago. :frown:

The upper intake manifold had to be removed to get to the the long one.

The Y shaped piece can be got to from the bottom of the car, but its pretty much working blind as theres not much room back there to see what your hand is doing.

hotmilk400 09-17-2008 12:26 AM

this is great!!!

how do we go about replacing these? i know where to buy them, but what do we needa remove to get to these parts? is it easy? or am i removing alot of parts?

i was considering flushing my coolant soon, so i might as well do it then.

jgrimm 09-17-2008 02:20 AM

Well, I'm pretty sure that the longer of the two plastic pieces is the easier to put in. It sit on the driver side of the motor and I believe can be replaced if you remove the intake manifold....I did mine when I installed my super so I'm not 100% sure on this. The second smaller piece would be a ROYAL pain in the a** to replace because it sits on the back of the engine between the firewall. So if you dont have midjet hands I'm not sure how you could possibly replace it without some serious tear down.

I will be getting my head gasket seal replaced and I will be getting this smaller piece replaced aswell. Once it gets installed I'll ask my mechanic how you could do it yourself. I'm guessing that you would need to remove the top head of your engine just to fit any tools into the small space to remove and tighten the bolts. I'll let ya know in a few weeks once it gets done.

hotmilk400 09-17-2008 02:55 AM

yeah it would be great to know how to do yourself. that parts are like $30, but labor would be alot if u didnt do it yourself.. im getting alot done to my car right now, so might as well put that on the list if its easy to do. i work at sears, so my friends at the autocenter will lift it up when they arent busy, and they work on it under the table for $30 an hour (im giving them 3 times as much as there hourly wage, but its still cheaper then $100 an hour at the 2 places in this area that will even touch my car)

rtbmw318 12-23-2008 11:06 PM

He is 100% right about replacing that thing from experience mine cracked then some valve problem in the I-10 freeway while in traffic 2 years ago. I had to replace the whole radiator cause of this small problem.

scoti49 12-27-2008 02:42 PM

I have a E46 Australian model ,318ti 2003 2Lt engine ,67,000kms.
Is this applicable ?

noga 12-31-2008 12:08 AM

if i have a 98 ti wat model motor do i have?

DaedHead8 12-31-2008 01:09 AM

Noga, you should have the m44.

applefan 01-06-2009 07:23 PM

Guys, I replaced the Y connector on my 318i. It sure is a lot of work, but not that bad as it looks.

If you still haven't done, let me know, I can explain how I replaced mine

Maverix 01-06-2009 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by applefan (Post 210353)
Guys, I replaced the Y connector on my 318i. It sure is a lot of work, but not that bad as it looks.

If you still haven't done, let me know, I can explain how I replaced mine

How'd ya do it?

ATF 01-06-2009 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoti49 (Post 208826)
I have a E46 Australian model ,318ti 2003 2Lt engine ,67,000kms.
Is this applicable ?

Possibly. You have a different motor,

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partgrp.d...53&hg=11&fg=35

Some of those pipes/fittings may be plastic and become brittle over time.

cope 01-13-2009 02:31 AM

I have 1999 318ti and am looking at having the head gasket replaced. Good to know about these parts. Is there a list on the site for all the parts needed when replacing the head gasket as well as parts you may as well replace (250,000 km)?
Thanks,
John Paul

cday318TI 01-25-2009 07:30 AM

Hi, I know this is an old post, but I was wondering if when this happened to your car, did it leak radiator fluid into your driver side interior, wetting the carpet? Just had this problem, and I'm trying to figure out where it's coming from.

chicken 03-11-2009 12:02 PM

hi, im new to this site. i actually dont even have my 318ti in yet haha. it just got loaded on the barge and is being shipped from California to Hawaii today. i asked the previous owner if he replaced this part but he said he hadnt. there was one owner before him so he wasnt sure if it was replaced. the car has 120,000miles and his mechanic says it is in perfect working condition, how can i check if the 2 connections have been replaced?

dave45056 03-11-2009 02:18 PM

what year is your car Chicken?
Without records it's hard to tell.
I have an m42 engine which only has the longer connection. I ended up breaking it myself when doing some engine work.
Search the Knowledge base. Cirrus did an excellent DIY on a cooling system rebuild.
I would consider doing that (maybe less the radiator) if I were you. Then you can sleep worry free about overheating your engine. The original stuff on the ti seems to last 130-160k miles I think.

bob///M 03-11-2009 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cday318TI (Post 213231)
Hi, I know this is an old post, but I was wondering if when this happened to your car, did it leak radiator fluid into your driver side interior, wetting the carpet? Just had this problem, and I'm trying to figure out where it's coming from.

this problem will be the heater matrex would have burst as its thin alloy
cant remember if this was a easy in and out or a a full dash out job

DustenT 03-11-2009 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicken (Post 219788)
hi, im new to this site. i actually dont even have my 318ti in yet haha. it just got loaded on the barge and is being shipped from California to Hawaii today. i asked the previous owner if he replaced this part but he said he hadnt. there was one owner before him so he wasnt sure if it was replaced. the car has 120,000miles and his mechanic says it is in perfect working condition, how can i check if the 2 connections have been replaced?

chicken - it's best to just have them replaced proactively.

tiFreak 03-11-2009 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave45056 (Post 219793)
I have an m42 engine which only has the longer connection.

really? I didn't know that, does it have the one behind the block or under the intake?

chicken 03-12-2009 06:14 AM

mine is a 1998. how difficult is it to DIY? European car mechanics are hard to find here and pretty expensive. i have worked on a Ford engine but this is my first BMW. but i will definitely get the parts changed, better safe than sorry

KRISP 808 03-12-2009 09:03 AM

my 97 318i is overheating, steam came out of the number 1 thing...
just checked the DIY looks hard but very fun ;0

chicken 03-12-2009 09:47 AM

that sucks krispy. hey you dont have the red 318ti do you? i saw one in honolulu the other month.

what website sells the parts?

pnosker 03-13-2009 09:38 PM

Pelicanparts.com, www.getbmwparts.com

KRISP 808 03-16-2009 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicken (Post 219933)
that sucks krispy. hey you dont have the red 318ti do you? i saw one in honolulu the other month.

what website sells the parts?


Naw bro i got a Moreagrun 318i, the one in my avatar.

chicken 03-18-2009 03:12 AM

i am about to order the 2 connections but i was wondering if there is anything else i should replace while i am already under the hood. is the waterpump, timing belt etc easily accessible while replacing the connections?

pnosker 03-18-2009 03:36 AM

Waterpump should be replaced before 120k unless you hear a rattle. Replace the thermostat as well as all coolant hoses. Use RealOEM.com to help you. No timing belt as the ti has a timing chain. Thank God!

Waterpump is a 2-3 hour job. Make sure you have the proper bolts to pull it out. I suggest reading the PelicanParts.com article on it. The Y shaped coolant connector is a huge PITA. You need to remove the intake manifold and it helps if you can drop the engine off one mount slightly so that you have more room to work. Also, it helps to move the electrical harness box and cabin filter system. Other things to change while the intake manifold is off: all air lines. Especially the octopus fuel vac lines. You'll know what I'm talking about when you pull the upper IM off. Finally, the two fuel lines that connect to the rail should also probably be replaced. Once you do that, your car will be nice and reliable on the coolant/vacuum line side for years to come.

Maybe while you're at it, do brake fluid (ATE Super Blue), diff fluid (Redline), coolant (make sure you use BMW approved coolant as standard Prestone type [yellow] has electrolytes that aren't compatible and will create an electric gradient which will galvanize the metals) and trans fluid too (Redline lubricants makes good stuff). And recharge the A/C. And lube up the sunroof. hmm... anymore? Replace spark plugs (use anti-seize on the new ones!) and oil (I love my Mobil 1 0w40) and call it a year.

chicken 03-18-2009 03:51 AM

Oh wow. definitally very very helpful, thank you! that site realoem.com is very helpful too.

chicken 03-21-2009 01:47 AM

i was wondering what are the part numbers for the replacement hoses

roadrash 03-21-2009 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicken (Post 221357)
i was wondering what are the part numbers for the replacement hoses

Yep, realoem.com is your friend. :biggrin:

chicken 03-21-2009 12:30 PM

thank you. just having trouble with finding the airlines, "octopus fuel vac lines" and "2 fuel lines connected to rail"

pnosker 03-21-2009 01:05 PM

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...16&hg=13&fg=15

PN #13531739618, item 2

13531433829
13531433830

items 13+16

former ti owner 03-28-2009 07:37 AM

Where can you buy the connector for the back of the head from? I cant find it on pelicanparts; I only found the side one.

e36ti318 04-15-2009 10:40 PM

I have a 95 ti what type of motor do I have?

former ti owner 04-15-2009 10:41 PM

You have a M42


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