frink84, I totally agree on the first part of your last reply. all my local euro friends at the meets start out hating the car because it "just looks wrong". but I love it. a nice set of wheels and tyres and I think they have awesome personality. besides, how many boring sedans and coupes can you stare at during a euro meet? I am personally very fond of my 5speed, but have lots of clients who love their autotragics too. I say to each their own. speed? yeah cant have enough of that