» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | OMG!OMG! Today 08:53 AM Today 08:53 AM 0 Replies, 151 Views | | My 318ti build 05-21-2024 04:48 PM 05-21-2024 04:48 PM 0 Replies, 1,484 Views | | | | | 04-01-2005, 08:26 PM | #1 | Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 62 | Help!!!...My ti Overheated! My 96 ti overheated on Wed morning on my way to work, I was stuck in a traffic jam caused by an accident and I did not check my temp gauge until it was too late. By the time I looked up there was steam and antifreeze everywhere and I had to pull off to the side of the freeway and call a flatbed wrecker. I went hom on yesterday to check things out further, and I had added some distilled water to the radiator to check for leaks and see if it would hold any fluid...I heard a dripping noise which later turned into a running water noise from the rear of the engine. Have I blown my head gasket or is there a type of hose the is out of reach back there somewhere? I have an m44 engine, all stock. A few months ago I had replaced my radiator, water pump, thermostat, both upper and lower hoses, belts and a new temp sensor on the side of the radiator. I am not sure why I overheated, what should I or can I do? Oh, I also am just about to reach 176,000 mi. on this motor. __________________ '96 Active, Boston Green Future mods:Front lipspoiler, cold air intake by Otto Racing, Hartge Rear Wing spoiler, Smoke Grey Birdseye maple wood trim kit. | | | 04-02-2005, 01:31 PM | #2 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | There are a set of hoses on the back of the engine for the heater, It sounds like you blew one of those. It's possible you will be OK with replacing those and re-filling and burping the system. The heater valve may be bad as well. I mention these items because you said you replaced the radiator hoses, but did not mention the heater hoses. | | | 04-02-2005, 02:25 PM | #3 | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 | J!m, are you referring to one of the water hoses shown on this diagram or others? http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...67&hg=11&fg=35 EDIT: or possibly some of these? http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...02&hg=64&fg=18 __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts 2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | 04-02-2005, 06:57 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: madison, WI Posts: 402 | I am very sorry to hear that, sounds like a bad thermostat is the reason it overheated __________________ Mods: clear turn signals, Silverstar headlight bulbs, k&N custom CAI, removed A/C, lightened crank pulley, painted brakes, custom clutch stop, custom strut bar, x-brace, custom solid tranny mounts, Memphis sound system, Sachs sport clutch, B&M short shifter, lightened flywheel, redline MTL .... Emberrassing honda owners one drive at a time http://members.cardomain.com/mghockey | | | 04-03-2005, 06:55 PM | #5 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | The second photo shows the heater hoses as well as the heater valve. he first photo shows the intake heater hoses. These could be leaking as well. I honestly forgot about those, as I don't have them any more... | | | 04-04-2005, 03:29 PM | #6 | Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 62 | How easy/hard is it to get to those for replacement? What do I dissassemble and take out? Hopefully it is a fairly simple job that I can do in a couple of hours or so. I have a Bently Manual, but I am thinking of getting a Haynes also for more detail in most jobs. __________________ '96 Active, Boston Green Future mods:Front lipspoiler, cold air intake by Otto Racing, Hartge Rear Wing spoiler, Smoke Grey Birdseye maple wood trim kit. | | | 04-04-2005, 05:54 PM | #7 | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 | i don't have the haynes manual, but i believe the general consensus has been that it is more detailed. may not be bad to have both though. i haven't replaced any of the hoses yet ... so let us know how much of a pain it is? you should be able to get the hoses from any dealer or possibly another online parts place like pelicanparts.com. just give them the bmw part numbers from the ETK and they should be able to match them up properly. __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts 2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | 04-04-2005, 06:18 PM | #8 | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Laurel, MD Posts: 27 | I had the same thing happen to my TI, a few months ago. It was, in fact, a heater hose that burst on the back of the engine. The pieces BMW used to connect the hoses were plastic, and they can crack rather easily. If it is, in fact, one of the hoses, Im sorry to tell you that the dealer had to lift the engine in order to get to that specific plastic piece and to replace the hose. It was something I couldnt do myself, ...I believe the labor charges were around 400.00......, but hopefully you'll have better luck, and a dealer nearby that doesnt like to screw people. Good luck. | | | 04-04-2005, 06:24 PM | #9 | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 | three_eighteenTiGuy, do you know which part # it was they had to replace? be nice to know which hose it was in the diagrams i linked to. thanks! __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts 2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | 04-04-2005, 09:31 PM | #10 | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Laurel, MD Posts: 27 | cali-ti, I honestly cant remember the part number...I imagine any dealer could look it up, if you have no luck there, let me know, and I will dig through my maintenance records or get in touch with the dealer that performed the work. Just let me know. Thanks. | | | 04-04-2005, 09:44 PM | #11 | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 | well, there are a bunch back there and i was hoping we could provide some guidance to Dusty for what to look for and where. it would also be nice to know if this is a common failure point such that one could plan to have a particular part replaced before it blows up while you're on the road. i know it might be a pain, but could you find out for sure which part was replaced? of if you could identify it on the diagrams i linked to earlier in the thread, it would be appreciated by all (at least i hope so). __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts 2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | 04-05-2005, 12:04 AM | #12 | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Laurel, MD Posts: 27 | I wouldnt say this was a common failure point. What happens is, when other cooling system components are replaced, sometimes air pockets develop in the hoses, keeping coolant from reaching the sensors that allow the fan to cut on and cool the engine. However, the air blockage creates the illusion that the coolant is, in fact, full. Your best bet, is to check the hoses if you have any of those components replaced. Just feel for cold spots, especially around the lower hose that leads to the fan area. and keep checking the levels. If you notice overheating while idling, this could be the problem. I will look tonight for that part number. | | | 04-05-2005, 12:15 AM | #13 | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Laurel, MD Posts: 27 | Ok. from the looks of the diagram, Id say "11" which seems to be the only hose connecting to the back of the engine....., However, I believe it is the plastic piece at the end of the hose that tends to crack and fail. Im not sure if that part is seperate or not. If you need anymore info, let me know. More than willing to help "dusty" out. Im going to give the dealer a call tomorrow to have them look up the sepcific part number. | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |