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As promised from a previous forum thread, the following data came from "Standard Catalog of Imported Cars 1946-2002, 2nd Edition": 1995 - 7238 1996 - 7238 1997 - 4622 1988 - 3735 1999 - 656 I also have how many models (Base, Active, Sport and Clubsport) were exported to NA by model year. This information will be updated to this thread shorty. Enjoy  |  |  | | 07-30-2010, 12:49 AM | #2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orange County, NY Posts: 1,067 |
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cool stuff, looks like the ti wasn't popular, doesn't look like there was even 25,000 imported | | | | | 07-31-2010, 06:10 PM | #4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Laguna Beach Posts: 357 |  NA Prod Numbers.
Looking for the numbers for each model of each year. Can you post those numbers too?
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Quote: Originally Posted by tiFreak  cool stuff, looks like the ti wasn't popular, doesn't look like there was even 25,000 imported | It was billed as a sub $20k BMW. Seems BMW customers were not of the mind to have cheap and BMW apply to their car. BMW learned their lesson and produced the high end 135. Too bad, this model killed 4 cylinders in the US. (I love mine!) | | | | | 08-05-2010, 03:41 AM | #6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 |
Quote: Originally Posted by 19742002tii It was billed as a sub $20k BMW. Seems BMW customers were not of the mind to have cheap and BMW apply to their car. BMW learned their lesson and produced the high end 135. Too bad, this model killed 4 cylinders in the US. (I love mine!) | BMW's margin was very little on the ti. BMW NA also say Americans don't like hatchbacks. Guess they don't count the Mini, or Z Coupes for that matter. Quote: Originally Posted by Phil Marx The 318ti "failure" is often mentioned when discussing why the 1 Series has not yet reached the U.S. Why not just drop the facts in this quote on them? It's from the March Roundel: Quote: | Phil Marx replies: Some facts might help put these arguments in perspective. For calendar year 2005, BMW NA sold 3,660 "sport wagons," including both new and old 3 Series, 5 Series, and all-wheel-drive versions of these models, making total wagon sales less than 2% of total BMW car sales of 197,833. By comparison, BMW NA sold 7,238 318ti Compacts in 1996---nearly 7% of 105,761 total sales. 318ti sales slipped to less than 4,000 in 1998, the last full year of sales for this model, but still accounted for 3% of total U.S. BMW car sales. How do you measure success? | | __________________ ...steven
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Quote: Originally Posted by 1996 328ti BMW's margin was very little on the ti.
BMW NA also say Americans don't like hatchbacks.
Guess they don't count the Mini, or Z Coupes for that matter. | Not to beat a dead horse, but the number of X's sold in the US is missing and they are ALL hatchbacks. So are nearly all (if not all) SUV's sold in this or any other country. Don't they count as hatchbacks? None the less, I love both of my hatchbacks, would buy another if BMW could ever "get over it" and "Move on". Z3 Coupe and Ti Owner. What are the numbers on the different (base, active, sport) packages for each of the years? Thanks in Advance (TIA). | | | | | 08-05-2010, 02:57 PM | #8 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bremerhaven, Germany Posts: 977 |
Quote: Originally Posted by 1996 328ti BMW's margin was very little on the ti. BMW NA also say Americans don't like hatchbacks. Guess they don't count the Mini, or Z Coupes for that matter. | A good marketer could make a jackass seem like a quarterhorse, or turn a hatchback into a coupe, or vice-versa, if you follow their lead and don't consider other possibilities. It's all in the presentation. In their sales force guides, BMWNA called the 318ti a 3-door coupe.
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The ti was not really 'marketed' at all. No TV commercials showing the ti etc. The magazines didn't really push it either. No ti at the NY Auto show (that I am aware of) for any of the available years. So, it is no surprise sales dwindled. I think it started 'strong' because of the 'exclusive' ClubSport for BMWCCA members, which caused a bit of a stir in 1995. Since it was not crammed down our throats, we conveniently forgot about the model, and BMW blamed 'us' (the consumers) for not buying it. Considering the complete LACK of marketing, I think it sold reasonably well. I learned about it when I was shopping for a new E36 BMW and liked the M3. One of the sales people suggested looking at the ti (which I did) due to my budget (or, more accurately, lack of one) and the rest is history... I still want a 95 M3 CSL... A straight-up swap might get me to part with my ti... Maybe...  | | | | | 08-02-2010, 01:24 AM | #10 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: norcal - 94590 Posts: 3,186 |
Quote: Originally Posted by Wraythe This information will be updated to this thread shorty. Enjoy | Who you callin' "shorty"? j/k  Do post up the breakdown of models per year... It's been a common question, especially regarding 95's (clubsports), and would solve a lot of arguements... __________________ James 95 active w/leather interior and sport interior conversion, Vaders, full M-Tech exterior conversion. Now m50 swapped* Eibach sway bars, D2 Coilovers, Depo's w/AE's, blacked-out sides and grills, LeatherZ console and door armrests, 1 series starter button mod, and custom finished Style 5's <--- in this color! Named "Roddy":  *M50 6 cyl. swap with fan delete, S50 cams and chip, AFE stage 2 intake, M3 clutch and 11.5 lb Fidanza flywheel, 3.15LSD, battery relocated to rear and complete custom exhaust. Sweet!  97 318ti sport, Alaska Blue, Contours, coilovers, Dove Vaders and custom black/grey interior named "Max" 95 318ti Active in Cosmos, S50 swap in progress... named "Pit" SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | | | 08-04-2010, 08:13 PM | #11 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Burlington, NJ Posts: 560 |
That's some good info.... I'm sure the majority are 95 and 96 base models. Though I'm not sure because 9 out of 10 ti's I see have a sunroof, whereas mine doesn't have one. __________________ 1996 318ti - 2000 Z3 2.3 - 2012 MINI Cooper Hatchback  | | | | | 08-05-2010, 12:25 AM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 |
Quote: Originally Posted by amancuso That's some good info.... I'm sure the majority are 95 and 96 base models. Though I'm not sure because 9 out of 10 ti's I see have a sunroof, whereas mine doesn't have one. | I think the sunroof was standard, the sunroof delete was the option, might be why most of them have a sunroof | | | | | 08-07-2010, 04:37 PM | #13 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Halethorpe, MD Posts: 1,028 |
Quote: Originally Posted by tiFreak I think the sunroof was standard, the sunroof delete was the option, might be why most of them have a sunroof | When I ordered my '98 in the summer of '97 the sunroof was an option that cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $1200. I did not take that option. I also didn't get the factory tape deck for $500. | | | | | 08-05-2010, 11:12 PM | #14 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brazil Posts: 21 |
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My 318ti was produced in 1994 and imported to Brazil in 1995 and also has no sunroof.
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P.S. : Please donīt forget that I donīt speak English and use Google translator | | | | | 08-06-2010, 01:19 AM | #15 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: back in PA Posts: 204 |
Me too...quite a few Z3 coupe and ti owners out there (also just got a 328iTouring...definitely not in BMW's main product circle) | | | | | |
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