» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | 1999 M3 Swap 09-07-2023 10:10 PM 06-01-2024 03:04 PM 7 Replies, 410,030 Views | | My 318ti build 05-21-2024 04:48 PM 05-28-2024 06:42 PM 1 Replies, 3,891 Views | | OMG!OMG! 05-28-2024 08:53 AM 05-28-2024 08:53 AM 0 Replies, 1,610 Views | | | | | | 01-28-2010, 03:54 PM | #1 | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Suffolk, UK Posts: 7 | Starting Issues - EWS? Hi, I drive a 1998 318ti with 69K miles, have owned it nearly a year now without major issues. Today, I went to start it and it woudnt turn over. RAC breakdown tried to jump start it, but nothing, so battery appears to be fine. We managed to bump start it, so it seems to be the starter. I drove it to a local garage to get a replacement. However now I have been reading about the EWS II immobilser system, which controls the starter, and not the fuel pump as I assumed. Could it be an issue with the EWS and not the starter? Coincidentally the range of the keyfob seemed very reduced today, even though the battery is about 2 weeks old, and has started fine ever since I replaced it. Any suggestions would be helpful, Id hate for them to put a new starter in only for nothing. | | | 01-28-2010, 04:03 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Jax, FL Posts: 541 | alternator? fuseable link? | | | 01-28-2010, 04:31 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gulfport, Florida Posts: 3,208 | It is not EWS related. If it was the car would not have started at all. On your car it is a EWS-II and fuel and spark would be disabled too along with the starter so it would still be dead and sitting were it was. It was most likely the starter that was replaced | | | 01-28-2010, 04:44 PM | #4 | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Suffolk, UK Posts: 7 | Thanks very much for putting my mind at rest | | | 01-28-2010, 05:02 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, Ohio Posts: 868 | Check fuse 46. If that blows is will prevent the car from starting. | | | 01-28-2010, 10:29 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Land of the Vikings Posts: 2,700 | if the engine is cranking but no start, check the crank/flywheel sensor best to get it on a tester if you can get her started __________________ Vin Number decode and Retrofit Pdfs Available Free ! Just PM | | | 01-29-2010, 12:57 AM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 148 | It actually is possible that it can be EWS related. highly unlikely but still possible. That black trim ring around your ignition lock cylinder is the ews antenna, its possible that that has malfunctioned some how where your ignition will turn on but your engine will not start. but at that point your engine wouldnt even try. in my opinion, maybe your fuel pump or fuel pump relay. hell, take a wrench and give the starter a couple good knocks and try her again. You could even take a wire (while the ignition is on) and attach one end to the (+)battery and the other end directly to the starter and see if it starts then. you'll know for sure if you need a starter. good luck.. | | | 01-29-2010, 01:20 AM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Land of the Vikings Posts: 2,700 | heres something i prepared earlier Some EWS for your digestion http://www.bmwmotorsports.org/BMW_docs/EWS.pdf And yes , i am a nice guy thank you __________________ Vin Number decode and Retrofit Pdfs Available Free ! Just PM | | | 01-29-2010, 04:38 AM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 | Quote: Originally Posted by 668M42 hell, take a wrench and give the starter a couple good knocks and try her again. You could even take a wire (while the ignition is on) and attach one end to the (+)battery and the other end directly to the starter and see if it starts then. you'll know for sure if you need a starter. good luck.. | I assume you've never gone over your engine very thoroughly, it's actually impossible to get to the starter without removing the entire intake manifold, terrible design on BMWs part | | | 01-31-2010, 04:42 AM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gulfport, Florida Posts: 3,208 | Folks he replaced the starter and is not having the issue now and wanted to check to be sure it was not EWS related. If the antenna ring is bad no start or fuel/spark. My opinion is the starter was bad. Very, very slim chance on the EWS starter relay but since it is starting good now I think the starter that was replaced was faulty and he will have no more issues. Only a opinion John S | | | 01-31-2010, 05:09 AM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Columbia MD Posts: 215 | Quote: Originally Posted by tiFreak it's actually impossible to get to the starter without removing the entire intake manifold | No, it isn't. You can also do it by dropping the tranny. Or you can hoist the engine out. Removing the manifold is simply the easy way to do it. __________________ *Except 318ti '97 318ti M-Sport '95 M3 BMWCCA | | | 02-23-2010, 05:35 AM | #12 | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South St. Louis, MO Posts: 60 | Not trying to hi-jack the thread but I just had something like this happen to me today. I drove the car to work (like I do every day) and parked it in the parking garage. Come out to get on the road home this evening and I have power, windows work, stereo was on there was juice, but turning the key to the right had zero effect. A couple co-workers tried to help me pop the clutch and it sounded like it wanted to turn over, but it did not so it's stuck in my works parking garage for now. Unfortunately it's an underground garage shared by a local sporting venue and it cannot be in there over this coming weekend. And pushing it out is not an option, and the tow companies said nobody would bring their truck down there so does anybody have any suggestions on what I can do? If it's the starter I may be able to get to it with the help of a buddy but we'll be with limited light or tools. All replies are greatly appreciated my 328ti brothers, it's a stock M42. EDIT: Also, it doesn't have the typical whine as if the starter has gone bad (from previous vehicles that starters have gone bad on). Last edited by indiejack; 02-23-2010 at 05:48 AM. Reason: Added details on the issue at hand. | | | 02-23-2010, 07:33 PM | #13 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gulfport, Florida Posts: 3,208 | Quote: Originally Posted by indiejack Not trying to hi-jack the thread but I just had something like this happen to me today. I drove the car to work (like I do every day) and parked it in the parking garage. Come out to get on the road home this evening and I have power, windows work, stereo was on there was juice, but turning the key to the right had zero effect. A couple co-workers tried to help me pop the clutch and it sounded like it wanted to turn over, but it did not so it's stuck in my works parking garage for now. Unfortunately it's an underground garage shared by a local sporting venue and it cannot be in there over this coming weekend. And pushing it out is not an option, and the tow companies said nobody would bring their truck down there so does anybody have any suggestions on what I can do? If it's the starter I may be able to get to it with the help of a buddy but we'll be with limited light or tools. All replies are greatly appreciated my 328ti brothers, it's a stock M42. EDIT: Also, it doesn't have the typical whine as if the starter has gone bad (from previous vehicles that starters have gone bad on). | Now that sounds like a EWS issue. If it won't start from a push start and key on I would think it is bad fuel pump or spark issue or maybe EWS related | | | 02-23-2010, 08:17 PM | #14 | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South St. Louis, MO Posts: 60 | Re: Starting Issues - EWS? Does the 1995 have EWS? I have not done anything with the key. If it is the fuel pump, would that prevent the starter from engaging? Just trying to clarify, thanks again. | | | 02-23-2010, 11:13 PM | #15 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gulfport, Florida Posts: 3,208 | Quote: Originally Posted by indiejack Does the 1995 have EWS? I have not done anything with the key. If it is the fuel pump, would that prevent the starter from engaging? Just trying to clarify, thanks again. | Yes it should have a ESW-I (I think). Starter only. Maybe a bad fuel pump blown fuse or spark issue or ignition issue, relay issue to. Unloader or any relay involved in DME turn on | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |