New Supercharger on the market?

[HuGo]

Originally Posted by Midnight Autoworks

You have the M44 motor in your car, which makes 119 rear wheel hp, the car in the dyno (97 Z3) also has the M44 motor and is now making 212 rear wheel hp. So you would gain 93 rear wheel HP. The complete kit is $3,499 and add $387 for the clutch you need to hold the power.

so this supercharger we speaking off will give me 93 hp?? Was the S/C the only thing installed to get the 93 extra, no other mods? After installed, well i still be able to pass smog? So lets see, if i WERE to buy this, all i need is clutch right. I wont need anything else, the S/C will come with everything. I wouldnt have to upgrade anything else right. How much HP does the dasc give, does it also give 93?

[Midnight Autoworks]

DASC gives you 169 rear wheel hp as it comes out of the box. Look at the dyno section on this forum.

[SDKmann]

Those new pics look better. Has anyone asked to try the charger yet?

[Midnight Autoworks]

Originally Posted by 1996Bmw318TI

so this supercharger we speaking off will give me 93 hp?? Was the S/C the only thing installed to get the 93 extra, no other mods? After installed, well i still be able to pass smog? So lets see, if i WERE to buy this, all i need is clutch right. I wont need anything else, the S/C will come with everything. I wouldnt have to upgrade anything else right. How much HP does the dasc give, does it also give 93?

The Z3 Is stock, the only other mod done to the car besides the clutch is the gutted catalytic converter which will give at the most 2 rwhp. The S/C comes with everything you need to convert your car into an M3 killer.
DASC max RWHP=169 (43HP difference)

[HuGo]

Originally Posted by Midnight Autoworks

The Z3 Is stock, the only other mod done to the car besides the clutch is the gutted catalytic converter which will give at the most 2 rwhp. The S/C comes with everything you need to convert your car into an M3 killer.
DASC max RWHP=169 (43HP difference)

so dasc gives 43 hp and ur S/C gives 93 hp more?

[AlaskaBlue]

The DASC would give 43 horsepower more on a stock ti and a MASC would give 93 more than stock. Those are all relative measures. You may or may not get those exact hp ratings.

[dodj]

I can't look at the midnight autowerks website at work.
But what do some of the more skeptical members have to say now that they have come up with the video and pics???

how does it look/compare to the dasc, and the KO disaster?

[HuGo]

Originally Posted by AlaskaBlue

The DASC would give 43 horsepower more on a stock ti and a MASC would give 93 more than stock. Those are all relative measures. You may or may not get those exact hp ratings.

so dasc gives 43 on stock ti, and masc gives 93 more on a stock ti?? why is it that the masc gives more?

cuz if dasc is only gonna give 43, but the masc is gonna give 93, then hello, i would get the masc *if it really works* Kinda both in same price range.

And if its really 93 more, then i wont get the m3 motor no more and save me a few thousand.

[stormos]

buy it then

[96cali]

Originally Posted by 1996Bmw318TI

so dasc gives 43 on stock ti, and masc gives 93 more on a stock ti?? why is it that the masc gives more?

cuz if dasc is only gonna give 43, but the masc is gonna give 93, then hello, i would get the masc *if it really works* Kinda both in same price range.

And if its really 93 more, then i wont get the m3 motor no more and save me a few thousand.

Stage 3 MASC = 93hp increase according to MA
Dasc w/ no add'l software, injectors, pulleys, etc = 43hp increase.

I would point out that bimmer95's ti pulled 196hp w/ Dasc, exhaust and lw fly, etc IIRC.

[AlaskaBlue]

Originally Posted by 96cali

Stage 3 MASC = 93hp increase according to MA
Dasc w/ no add'l software, injectors, pulleys, etc = 43hp increase.

I would point out that bimmer95's ti pulled 196hp w/ Dasc, exhaust and lw fly, etc IIRC.

It also had NickG's stage III tuning I think. That alone costs 800 some dollars.

[DustenT]

Originally Posted by AlaskaBlue

It also had NickG's stage III tuning I think. That alone costs 800 some dollars.

NickG's software is expensive, but it eliminates some very key problem areas. It eliminated the injector breather tube, the DISCA (sp?) valve and the FMU rising rate fuel pressure regulator(RRFPR). Adding injectors to a FI system or running a RRFPR is the economical way to add fuel, a properly tuned ECU with the correct size injectors ensures an even mixture and proper combustion.

[Tyler]

I'd be afraid to do the stage 3 from MA,i think over a short period of time it will put too much stress on the engine and afraid something will blow. I wanted a s/c at one point but i drive 3,000 miles a month give or take a little and really don't think it will work out to my benefit. I registered my car in RI in november 04 with about 60k on it and right now i got 94k on it.

[96cali]

Originally Posted by AlaskaBlue

It also had NickG's stage III tuning I think. That alone costs 800 some dollars.

That was before the software. After the Nick G. software it was around 215. Add it all up though and it was more than a 6cyl swap.

[cali-ti]

i don't see that the price of the exhaust can be factored in since you have to do up a new exhaust on a 6 swap as well.

DASC = $3500 + $1000 for a LTW flywheel+clutch = $4500. considering all the stuff you need for a 6 swap, i think it's still cheaper. keep in mind you can keep your stock suspension and rear diff which i'm not sure i'd do with a 6.

NickG's stage 3 likely gets it a little closer in cost: ~$800 + HFM (got one for $70) and intake (don't know yet).

certainly the cost of the 6 swap has been getting cheaper and cheaper while the DASC stays about the same

just my 2 cents