Raceland Coilovers?

[tiFreak]

Originally Posted by spidertri

I doubt either the springs or shocks will fit.

Tony (Bluebimma) had some regular E36 springs on the back of his old ti and they fit, they were definitely the wrong spring rate though

I guess you could use the front coilovers and the rear springs but you'd need different rear shocks, but personally I wouldn't want a mismatched suspension setup on my car

[sokat1989]

Originally Posted by tiFreak

...but personally I wouldn't want a mismatched suspension setup on my car

I Don't* plan on taking the car on the track/autocross, the main reason this kit interests me is because of the ride hide adjustability. As long as it doesn't handle worse than stock, I dont mind; and by the reviews from those who actually have the kit it is definitely better than stock.

EDIT:*

[spidertri]

Have you read reviews by people who seriously track the car on them? Just because people say they are good doesn't make it so. The car might "feel" better than a blown stock suspension but is it actually handling better?

[sokat1989]

Originally Posted by spidertri

Have you read reviews by people who seriously track the car on them? Just because people say they are good doesn't make it so. The car might "feel" better than a blown stock suspension but is it actually handling better?

I read through all 14 pages of the thread on bf.c. There are people who are using them for autocross on there. People who not only compare it to stock suspension but are moving to it from the more traditional bilstein/H&R setup.

[spidertri]

It sounds to me like you already made up your mind, not sure what the point of this thread is. I mean even DDM understood that the ti needed a different setup than the coupe/sedan, not to mention 6 cylinder vs 4 cylinder setups. I just can't see a $278 "E36" suspension turning out well at all.

You have to think, these guys still need to make a profit on these coils so that puts the price at what? $240, $200? How can something that cheap really be so wonderful? There has to be a catch.

I don't see any of the legitimate suspension gurus of bf.c in that thread supporting those coilovers, they seem to be completely supported by people who want some super cheap option to slam their car to the ground.

I made the mistake of buying DDMs, had to suck it up and buy Bils/H&R and I am so glad that I did. The difference was night and day. The biggest thing I noticed was how predictable and controlled the Bils were in the turns. The DDMs were never consistent and something always felt...off. I have a feeling that if I were to take the DDMs to be dyno tested you'd see some crazy stuff.

At the very least ask Raceland for some dyno plots of the coils, see what they say.

[sokat1989]

Originally Posted by spidertri

It sounds to me like you already made up your mind, not sure what the point of this thread is...

you are right, I have basically decided to get them. I guess I'll be the test bed for the ti. I know I can use the front and maybe the rear spring at least. the rear shocks I can put in some bilsteins and see how it goes. I'll post updates when i order them.

[tiFreak]

if you have a problem you can always return it on the grounds that the phone rep said they fit all E36s

[mgbman69]

Wow, I can't believe someone would buy these knowing they don't work!

You said you wanted them for auto-x. As an autocrosser I can assure you that even if you find some half ass way to make these fit, they wont have the appropriate dampening/spring rate combination to work well enough to provide better then stock handling. Always remember, what feels fast isn't always faster. What feels slow is sometimes fastest.

Whatever you do, take lots of pictures and post them on here. I'm curious to see how this turns out.

[sokat1989]

Originally Posted by mgbman69

You said you wanted them for auto-x.

WOW big Ooopsies on my part. possibly the worse case of skipped word ever.
Corrected in the post.

I repeat i DO NOT plan on autocrossing or taking it to the track.

I hope the sentence following the original mistake makes a lot more sense now.

[mgbman69]

Ok, fair enough.

If you're only going to looks, you're better off then trying to race the thing.

I hope you get it all working well. Just please don't be slow to send them back or not use them if they seem to be very low quality.

Keep us posted!

[spidertri]

Oh, I was under the impression you wanted to autocross on them too. lol, yeah maybe some of my posts make more sense now.

Originally Posted by sokat1989

WOW big Ooopsies on my part. possibly the worse case of skipped word ever.
Corrected in the post.

I repeat i DO NOT plan on autocrossing or taking it to the track.

I hope the sentence following the original mistake makes a lot more sense now.

[Philly]

Get an Ebay set... its all the same crap.

Sticking a coilover set in the front and straight coilsprings in the back with billys (like you said you may do) will handle worse than stock, I gaurentee it.

Do they make an E30 kit? If so, at least try to get half&half... if not, your idea here just leaves me smacking my head against the wall.

You will end up dissapointed in your choice, because by the time its all said and done, you could have bought a set of H&R sports/Bilstein sports for the price, had a nice dropped look, a fairly comfortable ride and an awesome - well above stock - handling ability.

Whats your next mod? Installing brake drums in the rear from a 316ti? A cone filter right on your MAF?
Because it seems like you want to go backwards with your cars engineering.

[Cali330ti]

Seriously?

Okay folks...to make it easy. Anytime you are ordering a kit like this, ask if it will fit the Z3. If they still respond with "it fits ALL E36's!" hang up on them. Seriously. I don't even bother mentioning the ti. There's no point as people don't know what they are. They do know what a Z3 roadster and coupe are though. I might go one step further and say Z3M just for posterity sake.

It depends on what inner diameter the springs are that come on the rear to whether or not they'll fit properly. Since it seems so many people don't care about proper. Go for it. When you're driving along in a few years and a shock blows out....hopefully you don't cause an accident.

[sokat1989]

ughh i couldn't get myself to buy them. Mixing and matching for the front and rear just didn't make me comfortable plus it was too much of a hassle to find the corresponding parts.
So instead i just picked this up:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ht_1771wt_1163

[pdxmotorhead]

Wayyyy Better choice. At the end of the day make it safe, reliable and be confident in the solution. The sweet taste of a "good deal" last way less time then the sour results of poor quality.

Dave