 » Site Navigation | | | | » Recent Threads | | | |  |  |  | |  01-24-2006, 11:05 PM | #16 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by snwbrdrbum10 Juct take off your front plate and put on a euro..like me...cant do **** then...they have those here in CO for running lights, and they cant trak those | i was going to pull my front plate off and put on the straight strip (no place for any kind of plate). have you run into any issues with cops in CO running w/o a front plate? __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray
acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts
2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles
Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel |  |  | | 01-24-2006, 11:06 PM | #17 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by 1996 328ti $50 fine in Maryland. Anything to obscure your license plate is going to be illegal. | hmmmm .... $50 fine for license plate viewing obstruction vs $150 (or more) for speeding ... hmmmmm  __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray
acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts
2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles
Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | 01-24-2006, 11:07 PM | #18 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by michaelhofastcar Be careful guys. Someone said her father is a cop. Since we are all law abidding citizens, we obey traffic law at all times, don't we? | no ... it's called civil disobedience and we had to learn about it in school  i don't see speeding as a moral issue (reckless driving is potentially another story ). __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray
acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts
2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles
Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | 01-24-2006, 11:12 PM | #19 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston MA Posts: 221 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by cali-ti no ... it's called civil disobedience and we had to learn about it in school i don't see speeding as a moral issue (reckless driving is potentially another story ). | Say going 120mph by a skillful driver (like most of us here) is speeding, but an inexperienced driver going that speed is reckless driving. Is that the definition? __________________
1998 BMW 318ti M-Tech Sport Silver (Gone to member leeko617)
CURRENT: 2015 BMW X1, 2004 BMW 330ci Convertible, 1998 Porsche Boxster, 2001 BMW 525i Touring
GONE: 2000 Audi A4, 2002 VW Passat, 1985 VW Cabriolet | | | | | 01-24-2006, 11:23 PM | #20 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 | 
Quote: | Originally Posted by michaelhofastcar Say going 120mph by a skillful driver (like most of us here) is speeding, but an inexperienced driver going that speed is reckless driving. Is that the definition? | certainly part of it. also the conditions around you (heavy traffic, speed differential with those around you, etc). i'm guessing some of those things are in the "official" definition cops use for reckless driving as well, but they don't care about the abilities of the driver or the car. driving as fast as one possibly can in a poorly maintained crap box vs the same speed in a well-maintained car designed for autobahn speeds is not the same. eg: driving my car at 80 mph on the interstate with no one else around or close to me vs driving the same car/speed on a back road that barely has room for two cars on blind corners. my point is (hopefully this doesn't start a big war, lol), speeding by itself is not a moral issue in my mind. what does this mean? in a situation where no one can be injured or killed by your speeding (an arbitrary limit that is changed with various laws at different times), i don't see it as a moral issue to break it. laws by themselves do not make some moral or immoral. say spitting on the sidewalk. go do that in singapore is it immoral? not in my eyes. that's my only point let the flames begin! __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray
acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts
2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles
Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | 01-24-2006, 11:40 PM | #21 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Quad Cities, Iowa Posts: 2,110 |
They have the speeding cameras here in Iowa too, so that means they have it every where else. Ive also heard that they are using camera vans like in Germany. I hate all this crap that the cops and private companies are doing now, theyre all a bunch of speed nazis! Has anyone else heard of the cops/ private companies using the camera vans? | | | | | 01-26-2006, 02:36 AM | #22 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 1,595 |
I just ordered the Super Protector Plate from Bavauto. The guy said it is a really thin plate that fits right behind the frame and said you can't notice it from just looking at it. When the camera hits it then there are blurs in the picture and lasers are bounced off. | | | | | 01-26-2006, 03:02 AM | #23 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,305 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by 1996 328ti There already have that in Washington, DC. | Yeah, I got one on MacArthur Blvd this summer, real ****ty, in a rush on the way to my stepdad's doctor office to get my bandages changed from my surgery. In other words, I for sure could have talked my way out of it with a cop, especially a DC cop who prolly wouldn't have pulled me over in the first place! I did see those plate covers that block it from certain angles and I think I might get one because these red light/speeding cameras got me all kinds of paranoid | | | | | 01-26-2006, 03:04 AM | #24 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by Viper3812 I just ordered the Super Protector Plate from Bavauto. The guy said it is a really thin plate that fits right behind the frame and said you can't notice it from just looking at it. When the camera hits it then there are blurs in the picture and lasers are bounced off. | When you look at it at an angle you notice it. So did the cop. Then he noticed I didn't have a front plate. $50 front and back.  __________________ ...steven
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| | | | | 01-26-2006, 03:07 AM | #25 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muncie, Indiana Posts: 1,551 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by cali-ti certainly part of it. also the conditions around you (heavy traffic, speed differential with those around you, etc). i'm guessing some of those things are in the "official" definition cops use for reckless driving as well, but they don't care about the abilities of the driver or the car. driving as fast as one possibly can in a poorly maintained crap box vs the same speed in a well-maintained car designed for autobahn speeds is not the same. eg: driving my car at 80 mph on the interstate with no one else around or close to me vs driving the same car/speed on a back road that barely has room for two cars on blind corners. my point is (hopefully this doesn't start a big war, lol), speeding by itself is not a moral issue in my mind. what does this mean? in a situation where no one can be injured or killed by your speeding (an arbitrary limit that is changed with various laws at different times), i don't see it as a moral issue to break it. laws by themselves do not make some moral or immoral. say spitting on the sidewalk. go do that in singapore is it immoral? not in my eyes. that's my only point let the flames begin! | You sound like a proponent of the unofficial "reasonable and prudent" speed limit which montana emplpyed before states were given freedom to choose their own limits. Then as every one knows that Montana had that become the only deciding factor during the day on the major highways. Now they have gone back to a set speed limit. I am not sure if the unofficial "reasonable and prudent" speed limit still applies or not. Example guy in a Porsche got pulled over for 120 on a highway in Montana in the early 90s. Officer inspected the tires and wrote him a 5 dollar ticket because he was not driving recklessly for the conditions. I believe that then you would pay the 5 dollars to the officer and no points were taken off of your license and the ticket was never reported. The 5 dollar fine was also only for "waste of natural resources." It makes perfectly good sense to me. A skilled driver in a good car could be a much safer driver. They may be able to cruise along at 80, 90, or 100+ mph safely depending on the weather conditions, traffic, tires and temperature. Maybe it is just American culture that sees speed as really dangerous no matter what? Maybe it is a few idiots that ruin it ruin it for everyone else, or maybe it is a group of people worried about the highways becoming a "blood bath." Spark notes..I agree with cali | | | | | 01-26-2006, 03:07 AM | #26 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,305 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by 1996 328ti When you look at it at an angle you notice it. So did the cop. Then he noticed I didn't have a front plate. $50 front and back. | damn. i didn't think they would actually care. Maybe I won't be getting one after all as my dad lives in Montgomery County and i'm there a lotand my car is actually registered at his house | | | | | 01-26-2006, 03:37 AM | #27 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 1,595 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by 1996 328ti When you look at it at an angle you notice it. So did the cop. Then he noticed I didn't have a front plate. $50 front and back. | Well it's a risk that I'm going to take and I don't have to worry about the front thanks to the south. Thanks for the info. They also said that some states have laws about these plates and others don't. | | | | | 01-28-2006, 05:49 PM | #28 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hot Springs, AR Posts: 27 |
get the paint I was talking about. This stuff works good. I have it on my Jeep and too a pic with my Nikon digtal camera. Looks like a bright flash hit it. here is a link... http://www.backstreetinline.com/photoblocker/ __________________
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Bav auto has two different sprays, one is a side protection spray and the other is a side and overhead spray. Is there a difference or is it just a way to get you to spend more money? | | | | | 01-29-2006, 01:38 AM | #30 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 1,595 |
Just got the bavauto plate and it's great. You can't notice it looking directly but at the angles it works. | | | | | |
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