» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | | | | 07-26-2007, 08:01 AM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Calabasas Posts: 187 | 6 (six) speed manual transmission....Can it be done? Can anyone tell me which 6 speed transmission would (definitively) mate with the M44 block? I'm hoping that any 6 speed transmission from the e36/e46 will work. Please advise, Chris __________________ 2011 BMW X5d with EVERYTHING on it 2007 Cooper S (6 speed manual) 2001 Eurovan 1997 318ti | | | 07-26-2007, 03:01 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Halethorpe, MD Posts: 1,028 | This has been discussed before in other threads. I don't know if part numbers were supplied, but I think we determined that it's entirely possible to do the swap but that you also need to change the diff to get back to usable ratios. IIRC, the first gear ends up being very short and the 6th drops you too far down from the car's powerband. | | | 07-26-2007, 03:34 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Calabasas Posts: 187 | 6 speed transmission Quote: Originally Posted by bullmand This has been discussed before in other threads. I don't know if part numbers were supplied, but I think we determined that it's entirely possible to do the swap but that you also need to change the diff to get back to usable ratios. IIRC, the first gear ends up being very short and the 6th drops you too far down from the car's powerband. | I recall having a discussion that (ironically) I started...However, I could not find it in the archives. To your point about part numbers: I never saw those either. It was suggested that the 6 speed box from the euro e36 M3 would work. I'm hoping that that wouldn't be the only transmission. Any idea on what ration differential would work? My impetus for doing this is that in 5th gear I'm at 4,000 rpm...At redline, I have a lot of power left that's (seemingly) unusable because of my current differential. __________________ 2011 BMW X5d with EVERYTHING on it 2007 Cooper S (6 speed manual) 2001 Eurovan 1997 318ti | | | 07-26-2007, 05:52 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: G-dale, California Posts: 1,698 | Quote: Originally Posted by inlacal My impetus for doing this is that in 5th gear I'm at 4,000 rpm...At redline, I have a lot of power left that's (seemingly) unusable because of my current differential. | I feel the EXACT same way and every time im on the freeway i say the same thing ...Where is my 6th gear? If it is possible and if someone knows what parts to buy i would LOVE to swap trannys __________________ Live Everyday As If Its Your Last A friend is someone who is willing to step into a flame to save you........aka a 318ti | | | 07-26-2007, 05:54 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Calabasas Posts: 187 | M42/6 speed All I care about is the transmission mating to the M44. Anything beyond that (linkage, shifter, driveshaft, trans mounts) can be made to work. I don't know anyone on this board that has done it, but I'll be right on top of this if someone can confirm the block to trans mating. __________________ 2011 BMW X5d with EVERYTHING on it 2007 Cooper S (6 speed manual) 2001 Eurovan 1997 318ti | | | 07-26-2007, 07:17 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Halethorpe, MD Posts: 1,028 | I can't confirm anything, but I've always heard that just about any BMW manual will bolt up. You might want to check with someone like Korman or Metric Mechanic. Cost is probably going to be a big hurdle to making this work. I think the only E36 that came with a 6 speed was the Euro M3. Here's some info. These prices are a little scary. http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/s...gory_Code=6SPC | | | 07-26-2007, 07:20 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Calabasas Posts: 187 | Only the e36 transmission? Quote: Originally Posted by bullmand I can't confirm anything, but I've always heard that just about any BMW manual will bolt up. You might want to check with someone like Korman or Metric Mechanic. Cost is probably going to be a big hurdle to making this work. I think the only E36 that came with a 6 speed was the Euro M3. Here's some info. These prices are a little scary. http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/s...gory_Code=6SPC | I find it hard to believe the only 6 speed box that will work is from the e36...The e46 6 speeds won't work? __________________ 2011 BMW X5d with EVERYTHING on it 2007 Cooper S (6 speed manual) 2001 Eurovan 1997 318ti | | | 07-26-2007, 08:40 PM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Halethorpe, MD Posts: 1,028 | I don't know. I would call Zionsville and ask them. They seem to have a good handle on the subject. | | | 07-26-2007, 08:57 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 3,244 | Check with Alex Lipowich, he's a member here too. http://abloriginalparts.com/ __________________ My Former Rides 1999 318ti Alpine White, Cali Roof, Dinan goodies 1996 318ti Hellrot California Edition | | | 08-20-2007, 06:55 PM | #10 | Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NE Wyoming Posts: 36 | Quote: Originally Posted by inlacal All I care about is the transmission mating to the M44. Anything beyond that (linkage, shifter, driveshaft, trans mounts) can be made to work. I don't know anyone on this board that has done it, but I'll be right on top of this if someone can confirm the block to trans mating. | Why wouldn't it? The ti uses the exact same transmission (Getrag 250) as the 318/323/325 motor'd cars. Find one from one of those and it will be a simple bolt on. I also understand that the larger ZF from the M3's will bolt up too. A E36 is a E36 basicly. The only real differences would be the linkage and flanges to bolt up the drive shaft. S __________________ 98 supercharged 318ti Sport "It's better to be blown than stroked" | | | 08-20-2007, 07:00 PM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,587 | I think almost any 6 speed will work. The 6-speed kit for the E36 that Zionville sells uses the 6 speed out of the Z4, E46, and E60 apparently. So, it should bolt into the M44 just fine. | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |