» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | | | | | 10-10-2014, 12:34 PM | #16 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Severna Park, MD Posts: 126 | My Valeo was quiet, too, for the first month. After that, I started to get the chatter when the A/C is on. Nothing detrimental mechanically, just not very BMW-like. __________________ Friends don't let friends call it "Beamer". It's Bimmer, like Rim. | | | 10-20-2014, 10:07 AM | #17 | Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 40 | I've also fitted M3 240mm lightened flywheel with clutch kit on my M44 with no issues as plan was to fit the DASC till I found out it no longer exists...orz. was thinking of going for the mid sized 228mm but could not find any lightened flywheels. some say its better to put a spring loaded disc from the 5 series or M5, I forgot, for better engagement. I had no issues with engagements so kept using the solid disc type, its been 6 years now without any issues just the chattering noise. initially I used the M3 slave cylinder but changed to the ti/is slave cylinder for shorter pedal stroke but it sure made it heavy feel... Here are some of rough numbers I know....may not be correct M3 original flywheel: 26.5lbs lightened flywheel: 16lbs cover: about 12lbs disc: 2.2 to 2.6lbs M44 original flywheel: 26.9lbs __________________ taishi | | | 10-22-2014, 03:12 AM | #18 | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Hawaii Posts: 19 | Quote: Originally Posted by TroyAndEddie My Valeo was quiet, too, for the first month. After that, I started to get the chatter when the A/C is on. Nothing detrimental mechanically, just not very BMW-like. | Is the chatter noticeably loud/annoying? | | | 10-30-2014, 06:36 AM | #19 | Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 30 | No, I have an "oem" weight (~20 lbs) single mass flywheel (from Sachs) on my e46, to be able to hear it, the window has to be down with ac on high,even then, there is absolutely no added vibration. Also, if I rev the car to 800 rpm, the sound goes away. | | | 10-30-2014, 10:39 AM | #20 | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Hawaii Posts: 19 | Cool, thanks for the info, Dunk | | | 10-30-2014, 07:06 PM | #21 | Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 30 | No problem! So glad I could help! Also, rock auto sells the 228 mm Sachs single mass flywheel kit sold under the 94 325i for less than 400 bucks, at least when I bought it in January! | | | 10-30-2014, 07:28 PM | #22 | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Springfield Or. Posts: 16 | Quote: Originally Posted by DunkM No problem! So glad I could help! Also, rock auto sells the 228 mm Sachs single mass flywheel kit sold under the 94 325i for less than 400 bucks, at least when I bought it in January! | Just put the same one on my ti last month. Problem with this kit is it does not come with a pilot bearing, the flywheel bolts do not have any thread sealant on them and the the TDC pin locking hole does not line up since it is for a 6 cylinder car. | | | 10-30-2014, 07:31 PM | #23 | Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 30 | Solid flywheel conversion...anyone done it? That is a good point. The kit does not come with a pilot bearing. But I bet that bearing would be wrong for the 4 cylinder anyway? Mine had blue thread locker on them. But it would be worth while just buying some loctite anyway. And the tdc did work for me since I was putting it into a 6. Either way, it's really cheap comparatively. | | | 10-30-2014, 10:47 PM | #24 | Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NE PA Posts: 89 | Good info guys. I bought a 228mm JB Racing aluminum flywheel on one of the forums, and then I am going to purchase a standard Sachs 228mm clutch to go with it. On an M44 that will likely last a lifetime. I have never purchased any clutch kits that came complete with a pilot bearing, so I would usually just buy one anyway as a matter of course. __________________ Jimmy P. 88 E30 M3 Zinnoberot - street - 2196827 88 E30 M3 Lachsilber - Race - 2197924 87 E30 M3 Prodrive British Touring Car 2.0 Litre - 068 98 318ti Morea Green "Base" | | | 10-30-2014, 11:07 PM | #25 | Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 30 | Please don't buy a standard dual mass clutch for your jb flywheel. That will cause lots of chatter and vibration. You need to get one designed for a single mass flywheel. It needs to have springs in it. | | | 10-30-2014, 11:10 PM | #26 | Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NE PA Posts: 89 | Quote: Originally Posted by DunkM Please don't buy a standard dual mass clutch for your jb flywheel. That will cause lots of chatter and vibration. You need to get one designed for a single mass flywheel. It needs to have springs in it. | No worries the clutch will 100% be for a single mass setup... __________________ Jimmy P. 88 E30 M3 Zinnoberot - street - 2196827 88 E30 M3 Lachsilber - Race - 2197924 87 E30 M3 Prodrive British Touring Car 2.0 Litre - 068 98 318ti Morea Green "Base" | | | 10-31-2014, 11:59 PM | #27 | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Hawaii Posts: 19 | Awesome info guys I went with the valeo kit. Gonna install it on Monday. I'll let you guys know how it went if ya'll want me to. I'm pretty excited. Gonna feel great, haha. I read somewhere that the pilot bearing that came with the valeo kit didn't match up, so I just went ahead and ordered a genuine BMW bearing for 20, and also threw in a bronze pivot fork. | | | 11-01-2014, 12:21 AM | #28 | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Kansas Posts: 29 | its been 10 years but i did this swap in a 91 318is M42 motor im guessing it will be the same. If i remember right used a flywheel and clutch from a e30 325, I even took the flywheel and had most of the extra material removed at a machine shop did not have it balanced and never noticed it vibrating or doing anything else strange. It all bolted right up the only challenge i had was the starter. You need a starter from the same as the flywheel problem is it will not bolt up and work so you have to remove the gear from the 325 and but it in you 318 starter i don't remember the exact problem why i could not get it apart but i ended taking it to a shop that rebuilt starters and they exchanged them for me for not much money not sure what it cost but i do know i did not have much to spend at the time. | | | 11-02-2014, 01:23 AM | #29 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Severna Park, MD Posts: 126 | Quote: Originally Posted by jAladdin Is the chatter noticeably loud/annoying? | Loud? No. Can you hear it clearly when standing next to the car or sitting inside it? Yes. Annoying? That's subjective. My opinion: it makes noise and the OEM one didn't. I didn't certainly love that it did that, but I should note that I could push in the clutch and the noise would go away. __________________ Friends don't let friends call it "Beamer". It's Bimmer, like Rim. | | | 12-09-2014, 02:13 AM | #30 | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Hawaii Posts: 19 | Valeo Kit installed. It's been about a month now, got almost 600 miles on the clutch, feels great. Installation was smooth. I recommend this kit if you're on a budget and don't mind stock. | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |