 » Site Navigation | | | | » Recent Threads | | | |  |  |  | |  06-27-2009, 04:34 AM | #1 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 |  rear speakers replacement
I'm a complete audio noob so all the talk about wattage, RMS and all that just confuses the hell out of me, I was wondering if anyone knows what speakers I should replace my stock rears with, and yes I searched  the reason I ask is because mine are blown, I've got them faded out now but I'd like to have them working, but I've heard that buying speakers that are too powerful for the amp will make them sound worse I'm looking for the watts/ohms/amps and whatever else I'd need, preferably what the stock speakers are rated at and the tolerances for keeping the best sound quality I have the upgraded factory stereo with the amp and a headunit with 50W per channel if that makes a difference |  |  | | 06-27-2009, 11:57 PM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 |
http://outlet.crutchfield.com/p_105K...?cc=02&tp=5684 this is the headunit I have, the amp is just the factory one hidden in the trunk I don't really want component speakers since my rear tweeters are fine and I don't feel like hooking up the crossovers | | | | | 06-28-2009, 12:29 AM | #4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rocky Hill, CT Posts: 1,065 |
Pauly, you won't need anything much for a rear fill. I've got a cheap set of pioneers. Do NOT go to a store and get some, but order off ebay or the like..
and the underpowering speakers is BS. that's only true in the case of HIGH power subs, where they're so stiff they won't move. Posting quick because i've gotta eat dinner, but PM me if you've got quiestions. __________________
1995 318TI base. 95 2.5L from 325IS. S50 cams+pistons, e36 M3 front brakes. H&R race springs F+R. Turner Motorsport front sway bars, M3 control arms. M Roadster rear sway bar. Racing Dynamics strut brace. e36 325i 5spd. 3.25lsd from e28 535is. M Roadster short shifter. Conforti chip. | | | | | 06-28-2009, 12:37 AM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 |
it might have been talking about subs that I heard that, good to know, I may as well just go for it and get a set of 6x9s in boxes, right? | | | | | 06-28-2009, 02:50 AM | #6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rocky Hill, CT Posts: 1,065 |
Quote: Originally Posted by tiFreak  it might have been talking about subs that I heard that, good to know, I may as well just go for it and get a set of 6x9s in boxes, right? | nah, the money's better spent on a good set of components for the front, and the stockers in the rear. I recomend Phoenix Gold RSD components. Great for the price __________________
1995 318TI base. 95 2.5L from 325IS. S50 cams+pistons, e36 M3 front brakes. H&R race springs F+R. Turner Motorsport front sway bars, M3 control arms. M Roadster rear sway bar. Racing Dynamics strut brace. e36 325i 5spd. 3.25lsd from e28 535is. M Roadster short shifter. Conforti chip. | | | | | 06-28-2009, 02:58 AM | #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 |
my stock front speakers are great, the rears are blown and crackling, I'm looking for some extra bass so I figure the 6x9s will be good | | | | | 06-28-2009, 03:38 AM | #8 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: norcal - 94590 Posts: 3,186 |
I am afraid that you will be disappointed with 6x9's in boxes if they are attached to the system with the same wiring that goes to the 4" rears... I did that and they sound worthless, no bass. The factory amp doesn't send the bass amperage (sp?) to those speakers, so the 6x9's are a waste. I am still searching for a better option. __________________ James 95 active w/leather interior and sport interior conversion, Vaders, full M-Tech exterior conversion. Now m50 swapped* Eibach sway bars, D2 Coilovers, Depo's w/AE's, blacked-out sides and grills, LeatherZ console and door armrests, 1 series starter button mod, and custom finished Style 5's <--- in this color! Named "Roddy":  *M50 6 cyl. swap with fan delete, S50 cams and chip, AFE stage 2 intake, M3 clutch and 11.5 lb Fidanza flywheel, 3.15LSD, battery relocated to rear and complete custom exhaust. Sweet!  97 318ti sport, Alaska Blue, Contours, coilovers, Dove Vaders and custom black/grey interior named "Max" 95 318ti Active in Cosmos, S50 swap in progress... named "Pit" SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | | | 06-28-2009, 03:45 AM | #9 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 |
my headunit has a setting to set the bass output to the rear speakers, I think that would help (it's what blew the stock speakers in the first place  ) | | | | | 06-28-2009, 03:55 AM | #10 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: norcal - 94590 Posts: 3,186 |
your aftermarket headunit's signal could be interuppted by the factory amp... You could try wiring 6x9's directly to the head unit's rear speaker outputs. That could help. __________________ James 95 active w/leather interior and sport interior conversion, Vaders, full M-Tech exterior conversion. Now m50 swapped* Eibach sway bars, D2 Coilovers, Depo's w/AE's, blacked-out sides and grills, LeatherZ console and door armrests, 1 series starter button mod, and custom finished Style 5's <--- in this color! Named "Roddy": *M50 6 cyl. swap with fan delete, S50 cams and chip, AFE stage 2 intake, M3 clutch and 11.5 lb Fidanza flywheel, 3.15LSD, battery relocated to rear and complete custom exhaust. Sweet! 97 318ti sport, Alaska Blue, Contours, coilovers, Dove Vaders and custom black/grey interior named "Max" 95 318ti Active in Cosmos, S50 swap in progress... named "Pit" SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | | | 06-28-2009, 03:59 AM | #11 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 |
I don't know if I really want to start doing stuff like that, maybe I'll replace the factory amp with an aftermarket
anyone know what kind of power the amp puts out and how many channels it has?
I suppose another option would be to just have the 6x9s powered by their own amp too | | | | | 06-28-2009, 04:48 AM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: norcal - 94590 Posts: 3,186 |
Brendan;
I agree, it's tough to know what to do. I really feel that to do it right, someone would have to re-wire all 10 speakers to an amp and to the head unit...
Sorry to not have anything real positive to add... __________________ James 95 active w/leather interior and sport interior conversion, Vaders, full M-Tech exterior conversion. Now m50 swapped* Eibach sway bars, D2 Coilovers, Depo's w/AE's, blacked-out sides and grills, LeatherZ console and door armrests, 1 series starter button mod, and custom finished Style 5's <--- in this color! Named "Roddy": *M50 6 cyl. swap with fan delete, S50 cams and chip, AFE stage 2 intake, M3 clutch and 11.5 lb Fidanza flywheel, 3.15LSD, battery relocated to rear and complete custom exhaust. Sweet! 97 318ti sport, Alaska Blue, Contours, coilovers, Dove Vaders and custom black/grey interior named "Max" 95 318ti Active in Cosmos, S50 swap in progress... named "Pit" SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | | | 06-28-2009, 04:50 AM | #13 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 |
I'd love to be able to do that, but I'm not good enough at wiring to do it myself and I can't afford to pay someone to do it, but that would be the best way to do it | | | | | 06-28-2009, 06:34 AM | #14 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rocky Hill, CT Posts: 1,065 | 
FWIW a simple front component set+cheap rear fill+sub is all you need for a sound system. I would never try to create a 10 speaker audio in ANY car without just using stock stuff and replacing speakers, it's way too difficult to make it sound any good.
So, my suggestion for you. If using the stock amp, do not go with a speaker any larger, it won't sound better. The stock amp sends only the higher frequencies to the speaker, since it's only a 4" and can't produce the bass/lower frequencies. Wiring to the rear channel of the HU is not difficult, but also not worth the time for you IMO. I'd say just pick up a set of decent replacement speakers for the rear and drop them in. Unless you REALLY are not happy with the stereo setup now, I wouldn't mess with a different amp/larger rear speakers/etc.
just my .02, i've been there before. My TI is completely rewired with all new speakers, and it's more time consuming to run the wires and stuff than people realize. If the stock had worked I'd have stayed with that, but it was shot, so an overhaul it got __________________
1995 318TI base. 95 2.5L from 325IS. S50 cams+pistons, e36 M3 front brakes. H&R race springs F+R. Turner Motorsport front sway bars, M3 control arms. M Roadster rear sway bar. Racing Dynamics strut brace. e36 325i 5spd. 3.25lsd from e28 535is. M Roadster short shifter. Conforti chip. | | | | | 07-04-2009, 11:00 PM | #15 | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Amish Country, PA Posts: 20 | Me too!
i have blown rear speakers as well. i wanted to replace them and not have to cut holes. are the stockers 4 inch speakers? are they 2 way or 3 way or wrong way? | | | | | |
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