 » Site Navigation | | | | » Recent Threads | looove 04-16-2024 01:18 PM 04-16-2024 01:18 PM 0 Replies, 1,584 Views | |  |  |  |  01-12-2006, 11:07 AM | #1 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Port St. Johns, Florida Posts: 2,242 |  4-1 headers on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E...29253839QQrdZ1 what do you think. for 200$ vs SuperSprint's 800+ I would consider it, if the quality is there. |  |  | | 01-12-2006, 02:04 PM | #2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 |
Why does it say "For Race Only"? Quote: | Originally Posted by Panzer_M | __________________ 
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Quote: | Originally Posted by L84THSKY Why does it say "For Race Only"? | Becuase it probably wont pass state regulations for smog. __________________
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Thats kind of fishy 800 to 200.Those wont lose power on low end would they? __________________  | | | | | 01-13-2006, 03:34 AM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muncie, Indiana Posts: 1,551 |
I think those look pretty nice..not that I really know that much about headers though. | | | | | 01-13-2006, 03:36 AM | #6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muncie, Indiana Posts: 1,551 |
Any other imput on these?...because I am seriously thining about buying them. | | | | | 01-13-2006, 04:40 AM | #7 | | doesn't care about you. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,925 |
The stock BMW header is very well designed. I am not an expert on this issue, but I'm going to assume that BMW did their homework on our factory headers. There are few way to gain hp via an economical 4 cylinder, free flowing exhaust is one. I doubt the hp=$ ratio is worth it. __________________ 
'99 Dinan M3 | | | | | 01-13-2006, 05:24 AM | #8 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 |
eliminates the cat, right? that would explain the "for race only" bit. considering the O2 sensors are in the cat section (pre and post) and there's a spot for one O2 sensor on this header ... you'd still have the problem of the second one (for 96+ tis). __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
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BMWs are 4-2-1 right? 4-1 are designed for a higher horsepower peak in the high revs. It may or may not be worth it at 200 dollars though. Looks to be basically a copy of supersprint. | | | | | 01-13-2006, 06:00 AM | #10 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 1,595 |
It's really tempting to buy at $200 and it does look like the supersprint. | | | | | 01-13-2006, 08:49 AM | #11 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: state college, pa Posts: 3,431 |
The tubing looks nice, but that plate; kind of . . . weak?
Those welds should penetrate a little deeper. __________________
I scream, you scream, we all scream for ZOMBIES. | | | | | 01-14-2006, 11:22 PM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Port St. Johns, Florida Posts: 2,242 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by DustenT The stock BMW header is very well designed. I am not an expert on this issue, but I'm going to assume that BMW did their homework on our factory headers. There are few way to gain hp via an economical 4 cylinder, free flowing exhaust is one. I doubt the hp=$ ratio is worth it. | stock is a 4-2-1 and is a 2 piece IIRC. This would be better atleast for flow. | | | | | 01-15-2006, 12:04 AM | #13 | | doesn't care about you. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,925 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by Panzer_M stock is a 4-2-1 and is a 2 piece IIRC.
This would be better atleast for flow. | If it's too free flowing you will lose low-end torque and hp. __________________
'99 Dinan M3 | | | | | 01-15-2006, 01:02 AM | #14 | | Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vallejo, CA Posts: 47 |  headers
You might be better off putting the $200 into ceramic coating and even wraping the stock setup and keeping the power curve where its at...especially if its DASCd. Just a thought. Now on a trailer queen, you could do both!
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