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Old 12-17-2007, 08:15 PM   #16
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I was just looking over the information that's up on BMW's new site and the Build Your Own feature for the 1 Series. It doesn't look like the fancy brakes or the LSD made it to production. If they did, they're keeping it a secret. It's not mentioned on the features list or in the model highlights.
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I was just looking over the information that's up on BMW's new site and the Build Your Own feature for the 1 Series. It doesn't look like the fancy brakes or the LSD made it to production. If they did, they're keeping it a secret. It's not mentioned on the features list or in the model highlights.
Maybe they're part of the factory performance upgrades?
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Old 12-18-2007, 02:14 AM   #18
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The 6 pot calipers are standard on the 135i, but the LSD is an electronic LSD that uses brakes to keep the inside wheel from spinning. it seems to work okay, from the drifting videos coming out on youtube from test drives...

There is a performance catalog that BMW has published that states there's an actual locking diff that you will be able to buy from them aftermarket.
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The 6 pot calipers are standard on the 135i
Is that on bmwusa.com somewhere? I couldn't find it? Why wouldn't they make a bigger deal of it in the advertising?
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:51 AM   #20
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has anyone ever heard of a car using the brakes as a locking diff? i have only heard of cars using the brakes as a traction control system, where whichever tire was spinning go the brake applied to stop it.... im not trying to discredit, just saying ive never seen this before on a car

and 6 piston is a bit much for a small car. i hope its true, but in reality i dont see bmw putting that to production
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Old 12-18-2007, 02:43 PM   #21
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Is that on bmwusa.com somewhere? I couldn't find it? Why wouldn't they make a bigger deal of it in the advertising?
To be honest, I've only seen it in print on their ordering guide for the 135i. If you complete "building your 1" on the configurator, you get brought to a link where you can download the PDF guide, that clearly states it.

Also, I've seen and touched a US spec 135i in the flesh, and it had 6 piston calipers front, dos pistones in the rear.
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has anyone ever heard of a car using the brakes as a locking diff? i have only heard of cars using the brakes as a traction control system, where whichever tire was spinning go the brake applied to stop it.... im not trying to discredit, just saying ive never seen this before on a car
No problem. The Porsche Cayman utilized a similar soft LSD, using brakes to stop the inside spinning wheel too.

See page 5 of this document for more information on the eLSD.
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:54 PM   #23
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so anyone have any first hand driving experience with one of these E-lsd's? thanks for the example, but now i want some opinions on how they feel if anyone on here has driven something with it
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Maybe this will help.



It's a video of a person on an unaccompanied test drive in Germany. An open diff could not do this.

the reviews that I've read (that mention the eLSD) state that it's a very good attempt, and let you get the butt out if you want to, but a mechanical one could probably do better. For 99% of the people out there, it will suffice.
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:20 AM   #25
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better than nothing, doesnt the 335 have an open diff?

that was pretty impressive but it looked wet... not something would do on a test drive in the rain lol but still nice control
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The eLSD is new, and not on the 335i. If you've ever autocrossed a 335i, you can't do what that car does in the youtube video (rain or not).
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negative i have not driven a 335i hard yet. i did see one guy take one to an autocross but he wasnt one of the top drivers out that day...

but i was just saying i wouldnt be doing a big onramp drift like that in the rain if it was a test drive. id rather drive the car for a while and see how it responds in big open areas. how ****ty would it be to smash up the car on your first drive lol
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looks good but im thinking for that amount of money i think ima go with an e46 M3
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You know, I tossed that idea around.. a ZCP in Interlagos Blue, but they all were around $45-50k, and barely (or no) warranty left.

I have my production number on my Alpine White with Terra Brown 135i, and will be taking delivery on 3/22. I would've done the suspension and tires on either the M3 or the 135i, but after I do that, I'm adding a tune to the 135i which they are getting close to 450hp/450lbft (at the crank) out of these days. It'll be a beast.

Getting rid of the e90, and keeping the 'ti though.
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You know, I tossed that idea around.. a ZCP in Interlagos Blue, but they all were around $45-50k, and barely (or no) warranty left.

I have my production number on my Alpine White with Terra Brown 135i, and will be taking delivery on 3/22. I would've done the suspension and tires on either the M3 or the 135i, but after I do that, I'm adding a tune to the 135i which they are getting close to 450hp/450lbft (at the crank) out of these days. It'll be a beast.

Getting rid of the e90, and keeping the 'ti though.
Please post your thoughts, pics, etc...
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