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Old 04-24-2005, 07:35 PM   #1
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Question Suspension Questions

I'm planning on doing some work on my suspension, and I found a pretty good deal on a set of Bilstein Sports for the front end. Assuming I purchase them, is there anything else I should be getting to complement them? Is it ok to put them on the front before I get some for the rear, or should I wait? TIA for your advice.
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Old 04-24-2005, 11:39 PM   #2
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If anyone knows about this stuff I would really appreciate some advice because this guy is gonna sell his bilsteins to someone else soon if I don't jump on them. TIA
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Old 04-24-2005, 11:56 PM   #3
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Also will the sways from an e36 m3 fit the ti correctly?
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Old 04-25-2005, 02:32 AM   #4
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BUMP ^^^

If any of you guys have answers to these questions please respond because these parts are gonna fly in the next few days if I don't figure out if I want them or not. TIA again
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well i think ull be alright if u do just the fronts, if u can id just wait and put it all on at teh same time. yes the sways from the e36 M3 will fit, and i hear is a good suspension upgrade.
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sways off M3 will fit. all you need is the sway bar links that connect to the strut.

get springs and while you are at it M3 upper plates. (if you can afferd it) remmember to do the control arm bushings.
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Old 04-25-2005, 03:57 PM   #7
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sways off M3 will fit. all you need is the sway bar links that connect to the strut.

get springs and while you are at it M3 upper plates. (if you can afferd it) remmember to do the control arm bushings.
Thanks for the replies... ok so sways from the m3 will fit, where's a good place to find the links and how much? Should I just buy the links from the dealer?

Also I only have a vague knowledge about bushings and that stuff... everything I've learned about it I've picked up from this site... I know what they look like, and sort of what they do... how many do I need? Four? Two?
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Old 04-26-2005, 04:00 PM   #8
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The seller responded to my question about whether or not they would fit... said they wouldn't, I'm assuming that just means I need to get the links and then they will fit?
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:34 AM   #9
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Ok so... I'm most likely getting these sways... are the swaybar links off of Bav Auto (www.bavauto.com) the ones I need?

Part # : 31 35 1 091 764
Part # : 33 55 1 126 932

Also... I guess this might be a stupid question, but please don't flame Can sways AND an X-Brace be used, or is it one or the other... as far as I understand the parts, they do the same thing, and I was planning on getting an x-brace. If you can't use the two together, would it be better to get an X-Brace than the m3 sways?
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Also... I guess this might be a stupid question, but please don't flame Can sways AND an X-Brace be used, or is it one or the other... as far as I understand the parts, they do the same thing, and I was planning on getting an x-brace. If you can't use the two together, would it be better to get an X-Brace than the m3 sways?
Sure. Remove the single bar brace. when you install the X-brace.
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Sure. Remove the single bar brace. when you install the X-brace.
So I'd be getting rid of the front swaybar when I remove the x-brace right? Am I missing something? I hate being a mechanical newbie.

EDIT: The point I'm trying to make is that I'd like to avoid buying these sways in a set, front and rear, and then getting rid of the front and buying an x-brace and ditching the front sway that I just bought. This is all if I'm understanding you correctly, and that I can't have the two doubled up in the front.
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Nope. The sway bar is different than the straight brace (or x-brace)

In two of the six holes where the x-brace will go, there is already a bar there. (about 2-3 feet long). That's the single bar he's talking about.
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Nope. The sway bar is different than the straight brace (or x-brace)

In two of the six holes where the x-brace will go, there is already a bar there. (about 2-3 feet long). That's the single bar he's talking about.
Ok so in retard terms that I can understand, that means I CAN have both... Awesome! Thanks!
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97Hellrot318ti, boy do I have something for you. Courtesy of a previous post by maurolin. http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3732

The small orange bar at the bottom is the front sway bar, and that big orange x is the x-brace.

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Old 04-27-2005, 06:18 PM   #15
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Thanks again cirrus! I was reading up on that thread... saw something about too much stiffness might cause cracks and stuff, or you need "serious dampening." Don't even know about the dampening, but the cracks sound scary... whatever, I'm buying the sways, and we'll see about the x-brace after I find out more about it... Besides, those "nutserts" sound like a royal pain unless you can find the tool. I'll get to the x-brace this summer probably if all goes well with the sways.
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