» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | | | | 06-16-2017, 04:00 AM | #1 | Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Taylorsville , Ky Posts: 45 | M Coupe Fr&Rr Suspension on Ti?? If I prefer to stay away from coilovers, can I just buy a set of Koni's or Bilstein's paired with H&R Sports intended for an M Coupe? (when swapping M52 turbo). I spoke with a guy at Turner who said the struts are the same amongst aftermarket struts for M3, M Coupe, and M Roadster. I was planning on using 330 front brakes and hoping not to swap knuckles and hubs etc. Am I missing something here? Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk | | | 06-16-2017, 09:41 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: US Posts: 315 | Yes, the M3 ones will have the extra mount for strut mount sway bar. Whether or not they are all the same i'm not can't comment but they will bolt right up. On my swap i'm running Bilstein fronts and Koni SRT rears. Springs are Mcoupe HR Sport. Rear sits too low IMO even with spacers. The brakes will be fine. It's straightforward. | | | 06-17-2017, 10:06 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fl Posts: 1,353 | Quote: Originally Posted by Johjamkep If I prefer to stay away from coilovers, can I just buy a set of Koni's or Bilstein's paired with H&R Sports intended for an M Coupe? (when swapping M52 turbo). I spoke with a guy at Turner who said the struts are the same amongst aftermarket struts for M3, M Coupe, and M Roadster. I was planning on using 330 front brakes and hoping not to swap knuckles and hubs etc. Am I missing something here? Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk | At the very least you will need M3 upper spring perches to make that work. I also suggest offset lower control arm bushings and M3 upper strut mounts. The 330 set up is nice but the M3 set up is a lot better. Compared to the 330 set up the M3 set up is lighter, has a larger piston, directionally vented rotors and the required steering knuckle improves suspension and steering geometry. I sell a top side adjustable rear Koni for the ti. I prefer that to the remove-to-adjust off the shelf units. Happy to help with your set up, just shoot me an email. Ed@BimmerBum.com Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! www.BimmerBum.com ALL NEW! 318ti Specific Parts For Sale www.facebook.com/BimmerBum BMWCCA #132203 95 318ti Club Sport 98 318ti Active S50 Swap | | | 06-23-2017, 08:49 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 168 | The other thing to consider (if you want the superior front M3-style strut-mounted sway bar tabs) is that adjustable rebound Koni Sports are inserts. This means you must cut off the top of the factory M3 Bilstein front strut bodies and drill a hole in the bottom to mount the Koni insert. Since I already had new 4-cylinder spec Koni Sports on my 318ti when I swapped in 6-cylinder engine, I merely swapped over the M3 hubs/spindles/brakes, which also increased the negative camber. But I kept the factory M3 strut bodies so that I can buy 6-cylinder spec Koni struts at a later date to better handle the extra weight. One other thing to consider if you go the M Coupe/Roadster route is to also grab the larger-bore master cylinder/booster from the M car. I swapped in the M3 master/booster when I did the front M3 engine and brake swap, and also swapped in larger-bore E34 calipers in the rear to maintain good front/rear brake bias. __________________ Sleeper Calypsorot 1996 318ti tintop. CA-legal swapped S52 from '98 M3, and ZF transmission with lightened flywheel/clutch. Magnaflow 2-into-1 muffler. Six-cylinder Eibach springs in front and 318ti H&R Sport springs in rear. Koni Sport adjustable dampers all around. Racing Dynamics 28mm & 19mm swaybars. M3 front hubs/brakes, E34 rear calipers, braided SS brake lines, Hawk HP-S pads. DS-II wheels. Polyflex purple bushings throughout, and factory lower x-brace. Fan delete mod. Engine mount reinforcements welded-in. 3.25 LSD rear diff from E28 & E30 axles. | | | 06-23-2017, 09:20 PM | #5 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | I'm still running the original ti brake master. It's fine. Has been for almost two decades. Unless you can properly bleed the system, you could make it worse swapping the master. | | | 06-23-2017, 09:38 PM | #6 | Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Taylorsville , Ky Posts: 45 | Are you guys using the factory ASC system or removed it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk | | | 06-24-2017, 02:31 AM | #7 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | Gone. It won't work unless you swap every harness and module from the M3. It has a completely different architecture than the ti. Pullnthe secondary throttle and use an early rubber boot to the air mass meter. Leave the actuator on the fender plugged in and just remove the cable. Otherwise you get an abs error light. | | | 06-24-2017, 02:40 AM | #8 | Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Taylorsville , Ky Posts: 45 | The only form of any such system I wouldn't mind having would be abs. However, I don't know if it's possible to gut these systems through software. That said, I kinda don't even want to mess with it and definitely don't want to spend money making it work. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk | | | 06-24-2017, 12:51 PM | #9 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | ABS still works. | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |