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Old 03-16-2007, 12:06 PM   #31
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Turner has an H&R rear sway bar that is 19mm and JC Whitney (yes) has one made by Addco, 18.5mm, for Z3 6 cylinders. There used to be a vendor on Ebay, called Neverenough, selling Addco rear sway bars for the MZ3 that measured 22.5mm.
I think I will go with a larger rear sway bar to lessen the understeer.
I will also replace my crappy rear KYB shocks to Bilstein sports....already have them.....
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Old 03-16-2007, 01:56 PM   #32
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but you DID notice an (large/moderate/somewhat?) actual improvment over stock bars, correct (when U switched to Club Sport bars)??

asking cause next stop for me is PROPER suspension set up, and I'm still not sure what I really need..

so far, got Bilsteins (I know they are Ok) with Bav Auto lowering springs, & 95 M3 wheels.. NOT very happy AT ALL with the springs (!) - they seem almost NON progressive.. its weird, but the car seems too soft some times, while extremely harsh some other times (is that even atributed to springs??).. its as if almost no consistency in spring behavior, if that makes sense at all..

anyway.. most likely will never 'track' the car, BUT would like a nice and solid feel on the back road 'twisties' (would most def. like to eliminate the current roll)! having said that - had Neuspeed bars on my 91 GTI & the car felt like it was 'plowing' into turns - eventually put back the stock front bar while keeping the larger Neuspeed rear and car's handling improved tenfold!

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Club Sport or something like H&R bars (front & rear or just rear?)??
springs - anything out there better than Bav Auto springs?
I understand these are subjective, but whatever...

everyones opinions apreciated & welcome, of course..


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How stiff do you need them? Are you tracking the car? The m-tec (sport) sways are still REALLY soft for track use. I swapped them in and I need to get some stiffer ones now that I'm running r-compound tires.
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Old 03-16-2007, 02:32 PM   #33
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Yes I noticed a difference, not a HUGE difference, but noticeable.

HR sport springs are nice, and soft enough for daily driving. All sport springs are going to be harsh.

I'd get the big HR sway bars if I were you. Or...I'll sell you my MTec bars so I can buy the HRs.
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Old 03-16-2007, 02:55 PM   #34
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I belive Bimmerbum has a few sets of matched Bilstein springs and struts FS that don't lower it much (1"/1.2"). Just slightly more than Mtech.
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Old 03-18-2007, 05:34 AM   #35
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Discontinued and Out of stock....
Really? That sucks. They have been discontinuing a lot of stuff for our cars.
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Old 03-18-2007, 11:05 PM   #36
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Really? That sucks. They have been discontinuing a lot of stuff for our cars.
Well it has been almost 10 years since the Ti was discontinued by BMW.
I sold the last Racing Dynamics Sway bar kit in stock to pmd3, a month ago.
You can get H&R, Eibach and Addco sway bars for the Z3, the part numbers co-relates to the Tis.
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:03 AM   #37
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Hi, I just installed a set of H&R sway bars on my ti and I had some trouble with the rear bushing brackets not fitting over the new bushings. Do you know if the brackets for a 328 will mount to the ti? The bushings I seem to have gotten require those brackets. If you're wondering how I got the H&R's, Autowerks was able to make a kit by putting the front 328 bar with a rear Z3 bar. They compliment my H&R sport springs very well!! I've been looking around this forum for about 3 years and have finally decided to become a member, ha! Hope you can help me! -Bryan
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:15 AM   #38
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http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ype=osi_widget

H&R Sways EUR 299,00(est 407USD) + Post from Germany to US.
28mm (VA) / 19mm (HA)

mmm debating.

how is the H&R kit.

Eibach 318ti Sway kit. EUR 449,00(est 611USD) + Post

http://cgi.ebay.de/Eibach-Anti-Roll-...QQcmdZViewItem

same size as the H&R 28/19mm
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:41 AM   #39
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3135 3623 AC Schnitzer Sway Bar Kit
$789.95

from BavAuto.com

TMS used to sell a kit for the Ti, for 350ish..can't find it on their now.
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I love the H&R's! I got them from Autowerks for around $380
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Korman has this.

Korman Clubsport Suspension System- E36 318, 325, 328

4 linear rate springs, 2.0" height reduction front, 1 3/8" height reduction rear
Bilstein Sport Valved front struts and rear shocks
Front and Rear Sway Bars (28mm front, 21mm rear), mounting hardware and bushings included.
318i, iS (all) P/N 3110318H4, 318Ti P/N 3110318TI2, 325/325i, iS (all) P/N 3110325H8

Front and Rear Sway Bars (28mm front, 21mm rear), mounting hardware and bushings included. < they don't list it apart from the kit though on their site.
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I love the H&R's! I got them from Autowerks for around $380
what sizes are the bars? What all hardware did you get with them?
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what sizes are the bars? What all hardware did you get with them?
They are 28mm and 19mm. They came with the H&R polyurathane bushings and bolts for the rear endlinks. They didn't come with new endlinks like the racing dynamics bars do. The only problem I had was with the rear bushings because they were designed for the Z3. I just ordered new brackets from Pelican Parts so hopefully those will fit right. The Ti brackets arent big enough for the new bushings.
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I've got that H&R 28mm swaybar up front. Nice bar. A lot beefier than the stock unit. Did that in combination with the ground control M3 adjustable sway bar end links.
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Here are some pictures!







You can also see them and more at the website shown in my sig.
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