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Old 03-30-2007, 09:10 PM   #76
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Bingo! The whole reason I was looking for new end links was because my current ones are rubbing my driveshafts. Since the holes on the end of the bar are for the softest setting, would that allow for a end link that is shorter than stock. Just wondering, incase the adjustable link can't extend to stock length.

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The purpose of an adjustable link is to prevent sway bar bind. You want the sway bar to be parallel to the ground under full load, you can achieve that with an adjustable link.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:13 PM   #77
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ok, I am going to shoot this, I am going to say, the blacks will work with the 318ti, with H&Rs ajustables, possible OE BMW bars, with minimal changes to the OE hardware. If you want to replace old mounts/bolts that a personal choice. If the OE Ti stuff isn't up to snuff, then M parts will go in, and I'll source some quality bolts/nuts at a speed shop.

If they will sell a set of black to me I'll test fit them next month and do a write-up on them..I'll do a better one in May on the whole Urethane rear durning on May Track day in Gainesville that's being worked out and the CFBMW poker run. 100/set for blacks. expensive..but nice things always are.

whatever bar I get I want firm in the rear. that's my first requirement.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:22 PM   #78
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Would be nice if we could get a group buy on those black sway bar links. Yeah, I think the links will work with the H & R bar too. I already had the Turner sway bar support tabs welded onto my car last year.

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ok, I am going to shoot this, I am going to say, the blacks will work with the 318ti, with H&Rs ajustables, possible OE BMW bars, with minimal changes to the OE hardware. If you want to replace old mounts/bolts that a personal choice. If the OE Ti stuff isn't up to snuff, then M parts will go in, and I'll source some quality bolts/nuts at a speed shop.

If they will sell a set of black to me I'll test fit them next month and do a write-up on them..I'll do a better one in May on the whole Urethane rear durning on May Track day in Gainesville that's being worked out and the CFBMW poker run. 100/set for blacks. expensive..but nice things always are.

whatever bar I get I want firm in the rear. that's my first requirement.
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Old 04-10-2007, 05:48 PM   #79
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Did you get a price on the rear sway bar adjustable links?

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ok, I am going to shoot this, I am going to say, the blacks will work with the 318ti, with H&Rs ajustables, possible OE BMW bars, with minimal changes to the OE hardware. If you want to replace old mounts/bolts that a personal choice. If the OE Ti stuff isn't up to snuff, then M parts will go in, and I'll source some quality bolts/nuts at a speed shop.

If they will sell a set of black to me I'll test fit them next month and do a write-up on them..I'll do a better one in May on the whole Urethane rear durning on May Track day in Gainesville that's being worked out and the CFBMW poker run. 100/set for blacks. expensive..but nice things always are.

whatever bar I get I want firm in the rear. that's my first requirement.
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Old 04-10-2007, 06:19 PM   #80
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whatever bar I get I want firm in the rear. that's my first requirement.
Really firm sway bars on the rear of the E30 style semi-trailing arm will cause the inside rear wheel to lift when cornering at track speeds. That is why z3 and E30 track cars use a higher spring rate on the rear instead of a super stiff rear sway bar to control the roll on the ass of the car. With the rear of the car stripped 500# springs seems to be stiff enough to control body roll without a rear sway bar for auto-x. I'll find out on the 19th of next month when I get to take it out for the first DE after the suspension update.

Also keep in mind that adjustable sway bar end links are a PITA to adjust properly. I still don't think I have my fronts set right. At some point in the future when I have the car corner balanced I'll probably pay an experienced race shop to set them up with all of the pre-load removed and at the proper length to make the bar the most effective.

I can measure the stock rear end links when I get home.

What day are you guys doing that track day in May? Still have any openings?
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:02 AM   #81
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From the center of the part that goes through the bar to the center of the ring with the bushing in it(car side) is 2 5/8 inches. Approximately.

From the center part that goes through the bar to the outer edge of the U bracket that mounts on the trailing arm is 4 1/16 inches. Approximately.

Probably accurate to within a 16th or 2.
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:31 PM   #82
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I just ordered the adjustable/ greasable end links from UUC. They are the OEM for that product. They said I can't buy only the rear bar from them, and they didn't have a set of bars to fit the 318ti anyway.

He also said you CAN NOT use these end links with stock sway bars. The threaded end of the sway bar will not fit through the hole in the endlink.

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ok, I am going to shoot this, I am going to say, the blacks will work with the 318ti, with H&Rs ajustables, possible OE BMW bars, with minimal changes to the OE hardware. If you want to replace old mounts/bolts that a personal choice. If the OE Ti stuff isn't up to snuff, then M parts will go in, and I'll source some quality bolts/nuts at a speed shop.

If they will sell a set of black to me I'll test fit them next month and do a write-up on them..I'll do a better one in May on the whole Urethane rear durning on May Track day in Gainesville that's being worked out and the CFBMW poker run. 100/set for blacks. expensive..but nice things always are.

whatever bar I get I want firm in the rear. that's my first requirement.
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Old 04-14-2007, 02:03 AM   #83
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Sway bar links came in, they look very nice. Now I gotta find a rear sway bar that is adjustable.
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