318ti.org forum

Go Back   318ti.org forum > Technical, Maintenance and Modifications > Interior and ICE

Notices

Interior and ICE For all interior and In Car Entertainment discussion.

.
» Recent Threads
names for your TI
10-08-2004 04:48 AM
Last post by andakn
Today 02:38 AM
347 Replies, 81,673 Views
Age Demographics
10-30-2004 05:06 AM
Last post by Locus7
Yesterday 03:04 AM
322 Replies, 87,726 Views
FS: 1998 Black BMW 318ti...
10-29-2016 07:52 AM
Last post by winky
11-18-2018 11:31 PM
12 Replies, 8,947 Views
What model ti do you own?
02-26-2003 04:40 AM
Last post by K12Pilot
11-18-2018 01:51 PM
324 Replies, 108,240 Views
New to the Ti but not...
11-18-2018 01:48 PM
Last post by K12Pilot
11-18-2018 01:48 PM
0 Replies, 88 Views
Long time swapped to...
11-16-2018 04:12 AM
Last post by Toolmaker
11-18-2018 03:04 AM
2 Replies, 224 Views
FS Black 1997 318ti...
11-09-2018 01:05 AM
Last post by tmca
11-17-2018 09:14 PM
4 Replies, 908 Views
205/60r16 tires on model...
11-17-2018 06:02 PM
Last post by mrmikkelsen
11-17-2018 06:02 PM
0 Replies, 148 Views
SIR crankshaft tool
11-17-2018 04:56 AM
Last post by S.W.B.C
11-17-2018 04:56 AM
0 Replies, 180 Views
AutoCross Checklist (FAQ)
08-24-2006 05:39 PM
Last post by Zed330ti
11-16-2018 07:06 AM
10 Replies, 18,266 Views
Reply Share/Bookmark
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-30-2010, 06:13 AM   #1
pcalahane
Senior Member
 
pcalahane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Santa Maria, CA
Posts: 277
Vehicles
iTrader: (0)
Default Manual Windows

I would love to convert my electric windows to manual windows. So i am curious if this has ever been done and how so?
__________________

-1996 318TI ACTIVE PACKAGE (ALPINE WEISS): 75-0MPH IN 3 ROLLS AND AN END TO END FLIP.
Mods: Complete M3 Body Kit, Carbon Fiber Side Mirrors, Carbon Fiber GTR Hood, Carbon Fiber Hatch, Carbon Fiber Sunroof Panel, Blacked Out Ambers and Taillights, 17' TSW Nagaro Rims, European Front License Plate, Sripped Out Interior, NRG Deep Dish Steering Wheel with MOMO Hub, NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Ball, Pioneer Avic N2 Stereo (Navigation/Bluetooth/CD), Cosmo Racing Cold Air Intake, Passenger Airbag Delete, Rear Wiper Delete, Blacked Out Kidney Grills, Projector Fog Lights, manual windows
-1996 318TI CALIFORNIA EDITION (SCHWARZ ZWEI): BACK IN BLACK!
Current Mods: European Front License Plate, Rear Wiper Delete, Bosch Miata Battery, Blacked Out Ambers, 17" Contours (non-staggered), Kenwood Stereo (Bluetooth/USB/CD), City Lights, Corner Running Light Delete, Rear Taillight Mod (//M style brake light), Passport 9500xi Radar Detector (Hardwired), Laguna Seca Decal, Stripped Out Interior, Debaffled Airbox, Blacked Out Kidney Grills, Fog Light Delete, M3 front bumper w/ lip, Sparco Hood Pins, Sparco Trunk Springs, NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Knob, Rokkor Coilovers, Magnaflow Muffler (11225)

Whats Coming Next: NRG Steering wheel, Corbeau Forza Seats and Sliders (X2), NRG Race Style Steering Wheel with MOMO Hub, UUC Clutch Stop,, M3 Side Moldings, Manual Window regulators
pcalahane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 06:35 AM   #2
hotmilk400
Senior Member
 
hotmilk400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Posts: 1,106
iTrader: (13)
Default

i am curious on why you would want to do this. I have not heard of anyone doing this on any Ti, but i am sure it is something that can be done with some time and the right parts.

the hardest thing will be to find parts that will fit, as i am not sure if they offered manual windows. if they did, it might be a hard part to find. you might have to do some digging on what parts will fit from another BMWs that offered it. you could check Z3's and 328's. maybe the older cars had more models with manual windows, and junk yards might have the parts available.

another thing is, you will have to do something with the buttons on your dash. either use plates to fill them in, or leave non-working buttons in your center console.

but again, i ask you, why spend the time and money to remove a premium option in your car? i hate manual windows, i wont by a car that has them anymore. it is a pain to reach across your center console to open your passenger window , all the while, avoiding oncoming traffic and parked cars on the side of the road.
__________________
Check out our new website! https://soltechsolutionsllc.com/

Green Your Decor with the Aspect! Shop for the Grow Light Used by Interior Designers, Growers & People Like You!

Last edited by hotmilk400; 08-30-2010 at 06:38 AM.
hotmilk400 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 06:38 AM   #3
budget76
Senior Member
 
budget76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Rocky Hill, CT
Posts: 1,065
iTrader: (1)
Default

I assume you're fed up with the unreliablness of the electric? I was at that point too, but wound up fixing them right.

FWIW in Europe they came with manual windows, never seen one in the states with em though
__________________
1995 318TI base. 95 2.5L from 325IS. S50 cams+pistons, e36 M3 front brakes. H&R race springs F+R. Turner Motorsport front sway bars, M3 control arms. M Roadster rear sway bar. Racing Dynamics strut brace. e36 325i 5spd. 3.25lsd from e28 535is. M Roadster short shifter. Conforti chip.
budget76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 06:39 AM   #4
Jean H.318TI
Senior Member
 
Jean H.318TI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 1,811
iTrader: (2)
Default

hes going for lighter car so thats why he wants manual windows and yeah theres some TIs with manual windows in can, mex or euro/asia u can prolly get the parts at the dealer tho, but yeah all TIs came with power windows to the states
__________________
5/96 318TI Sport
Jean H.318TI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 06:43 AM   #5
pcalahane
Senior Member
 
pcalahane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Santa Maria, CA
Posts: 277
Vehicles
iTrader: (0)
Default

My reasoning is simple. The Windows and interior lights are all connected and since i removed my interior (including the lights) a month ago my windows do not work. Furthermore it will be lighter and there will be alot less to deal with when they break. I c an fix my Toyota's manual windows in 15 minutes now, its soo easy. But when my BMW's windows break down i am SOL and have to spend hours figuring what else is connected to it.
__________________

-1996 318TI ACTIVE PACKAGE (ALPINE WEISS): 75-0MPH IN 3 ROLLS AND AN END TO END FLIP.
Mods: Complete M3 Body Kit, Carbon Fiber Side Mirrors, Carbon Fiber GTR Hood, Carbon Fiber Hatch, Carbon Fiber Sunroof Panel, Blacked Out Ambers and Taillights, 17' TSW Nagaro Rims, European Front License Plate, Sripped Out Interior, NRG Deep Dish Steering Wheel with MOMO Hub, NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Ball, Pioneer Avic N2 Stereo (Navigation/Bluetooth/CD), Cosmo Racing Cold Air Intake, Passenger Airbag Delete, Rear Wiper Delete, Blacked Out Kidney Grills, Projector Fog Lights, manual windows
-1996 318TI CALIFORNIA EDITION (SCHWARZ ZWEI): BACK IN BLACK!
Current Mods: European Front License Plate, Rear Wiper Delete, Bosch Miata Battery, Blacked Out Ambers, 17" Contours (non-staggered), Kenwood Stereo (Bluetooth/USB/CD), City Lights, Corner Running Light Delete, Rear Taillight Mod (//M style brake light), Passport 9500xi Radar Detector (Hardwired), Laguna Seca Decal, Stripped Out Interior, Debaffled Airbox, Blacked Out Kidney Grills, Fog Light Delete, M3 front bumper w/ lip, Sparco Hood Pins, Sparco Trunk Springs, NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Knob, Rokkor Coilovers, Magnaflow Muffler (11225)

Whats Coming Next: NRG Steering wheel, Corbeau Forza Seats and Sliders (X2), NRG Race Style Steering Wheel with MOMO Hub, UUC Clutch Stop,, M3 Side Moldings, Manual Window regulators
pcalahane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 06:45 AM   #6
pcalahane
Senior Member
 
pcalahane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Santa Maria, CA
Posts: 277
Vehicles
iTrader: (0)
Default

Jean you seriously save me every time. always knowing why i post what i post. BTW any luck on the passenger airbag delete? I am planning on taking mine out along with the sensors in the rear underneath where the seats used to be and side panels were.
__________________

-1996 318TI ACTIVE PACKAGE (ALPINE WEISS): 75-0MPH IN 3 ROLLS AND AN END TO END FLIP.
Mods: Complete M3 Body Kit, Carbon Fiber Side Mirrors, Carbon Fiber GTR Hood, Carbon Fiber Hatch, Carbon Fiber Sunroof Panel, Blacked Out Ambers and Taillights, 17' TSW Nagaro Rims, European Front License Plate, Sripped Out Interior, NRG Deep Dish Steering Wheel with MOMO Hub, NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Ball, Pioneer Avic N2 Stereo (Navigation/Bluetooth/CD), Cosmo Racing Cold Air Intake, Passenger Airbag Delete, Rear Wiper Delete, Blacked Out Kidney Grills, Projector Fog Lights, manual windows
-1996 318TI CALIFORNIA EDITION (SCHWARZ ZWEI): BACK IN BLACK!
Current Mods: European Front License Plate, Rear Wiper Delete, Bosch Miata Battery, Blacked Out Ambers, 17" Contours (non-staggered), Kenwood Stereo (Bluetooth/USB/CD), City Lights, Corner Running Light Delete, Rear Taillight Mod (//M style brake light), Passport 9500xi Radar Detector (Hardwired), Laguna Seca Decal, Stripped Out Interior, Debaffled Airbox, Blacked Out Kidney Grills, Fog Light Delete, M3 front bumper w/ lip, Sparco Hood Pins, Sparco Trunk Springs, NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Knob, Rokkor Coilovers, Magnaflow Muffler (11225)

Whats Coming Next: NRG Steering wheel, Corbeau Forza Seats and Sliders (X2), NRG Race Style Steering Wheel with MOMO Hub, UUC Clutch Stop,, M3 Side Moldings, Manual Window regulators
pcalahane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 08:37 AM   #7
Philly
Senior Member
 
Philly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: maritimes
Posts: 1,435
iTrader: (0)
Default

never even seen an E36 with manual windows.

my Ti is canadian, was the basest of base model (no sunroof) and it still has power windows.
__________________
11/97 Base


328Ti

Philly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 03:13 PM   #8
spidertri
Senior Member
 
spidertri's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Elizabeth City, NC
Posts: 3,832
Vehicles
iTrader: (9)
Default

Part #7

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...55&hg=51&fg=10
__________________
~Dave~

98 328ti Morea Grun slicktop
13 JGC WK2 Deep Cherry

Search | RealOEM
spidertri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 04:45 PM   #9
budget76
Senior Member
 
budget76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Rocky Hill, CT
Posts: 1,065
iTrader: (1)
Default

I don't remember what year your car is, but mine is a 95 and FWIW I have no passenger airbag. Pretty sure it was just disconnected and pulled
__________________
1995 318TI base. 95 2.5L from 325IS. S50 cams+pistons, e36 M3 front brakes. H&R race springs F+R. Turner Motorsport front sway bars, M3 control arms. M Roadster rear sway bar. Racing Dynamics strut brace. e36 325i 5spd. 3.25lsd from e28 535is. M Roadster short shifter. Conforti chip.
budget76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 06:08 PM   #10
mohaughn
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,523
iTrader: (1)
Default

In regards to your windows no longer working after pulling the interior lights, you probably pulled the ground for the window switches. It is located right underneath the driver seat. That is really the only way that the interior lights and the windows are wired together.

I had my interior completely out including all lights, with my power windows working.

I looked into doing manual windows but it seemed kind of costly to start getting the parts to try it out. Ended up just pulling the windows and regulators. Car has lexan windows for when it is parked.
mohaughn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2010, 10:16 PM   #11
pcalahane
Senior Member
 
pcalahane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Santa Maria, CA
Posts: 277
Vehicles
iTrader: (0)
Default

So all i Need is Parts 7,8,9, and 10 to convert it? Nothing else?
__________________

-1996 318TI ACTIVE PACKAGE (ALPINE WEISS): 75-0MPH IN 3 ROLLS AND AN END TO END FLIP.
Mods: Complete M3 Body Kit, Carbon Fiber Side Mirrors, Carbon Fiber GTR Hood, Carbon Fiber Hatch, Carbon Fiber Sunroof Panel, Blacked Out Ambers and Taillights, 17' TSW Nagaro Rims, European Front License Plate, Sripped Out Interior, NRG Deep Dish Steering Wheel with MOMO Hub, NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Ball, Pioneer Avic N2 Stereo (Navigation/Bluetooth/CD), Cosmo Racing Cold Air Intake, Passenger Airbag Delete, Rear Wiper Delete, Blacked Out Kidney Grills, Projector Fog Lights, manual windows
-1996 318TI CALIFORNIA EDITION (SCHWARZ ZWEI): BACK IN BLACK!
Current Mods: European Front License Plate, Rear Wiper Delete, Bosch Miata Battery, Blacked Out Ambers, 17" Contours (non-staggered), Kenwood Stereo (Bluetooth/USB/CD), City Lights, Corner Running Light Delete, Rear Taillight Mod (//M style brake light), Passport 9500xi Radar Detector (Hardwired), Laguna Seca Decal, Stripped Out Interior, Debaffled Airbox, Blacked Out Kidney Grills, Fog Light Delete, M3 front bumper w/ lip, Sparco Hood Pins, Sparco Trunk Springs, NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Knob, Rokkor Coilovers, Magnaflow Muffler (11225)

Whats Coming Next: NRG Steering wheel, Corbeau Forza Seats and Sliders (X2), NRG Race Style Steering Wheel with MOMO Hub, UUC Clutch Stop,, M3 Side Moldings, Manual Window regulators
pcalahane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2010, 12:52 AM   #12
spidertri
Senior Member
 
spidertri's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Elizabeth City, NC
Posts: 3,832
Vehicles
iTrader: (9)
Default

Looks like it to me, just take the motors out, cut a hole in the door card, and attach the crank.
__________________
~Dave~

98 328ti Morea Grun slicktop
13 JGC WK2 Deep Cherry

Search | RealOEM
spidertri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2010, 02:18 AM   #13
pcalahane
Senior Member
 
pcalahane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Santa Maria, CA
Posts: 277
Vehicles
iTrader: (0)
Default

Ok thanks guys. I was just on the phone with BMW parts center and they are sending me two of #7. They say for my car the other #'s don't work... So I guess I don't need the torx-bolt w/washer, covering caps, and stop disks. That doesn't seem right but they made it so I won't argue. I will post the results. Btw any advise on removing the door panel to work on this?
__________________

-1996 318TI ACTIVE PACKAGE (ALPINE WEISS): 75-0MPH IN 3 ROLLS AND AN END TO END FLIP.
Mods: Complete M3 Body Kit, Carbon Fiber Side Mirrors, Carbon Fiber GTR Hood, Carbon Fiber Hatch, Carbon Fiber Sunroof Panel, Blacked Out Ambers and Taillights, 17' TSW Nagaro Rims, European Front License Plate, Sripped Out Interior, NRG Deep Dish Steering Wheel with MOMO Hub, NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Ball, Pioneer Avic N2 Stereo (Navigation/Bluetooth/CD), Cosmo Racing Cold Air Intake, Passenger Airbag Delete, Rear Wiper Delete, Blacked Out Kidney Grills, Projector Fog Lights, manual windows
-1996 318TI CALIFORNIA EDITION (SCHWARZ ZWEI): BACK IN BLACK!
Current Mods: European Front License Plate, Rear Wiper Delete, Bosch Miata Battery, Blacked Out Ambers, 17" Contours (non-staggered), Kenwood Stereo (Bluetooth/USB/CD), City Lights, Corner Running Light Delete, Rear Taillight Mod (//M style brake light), Passport 9500xi Radar Detector (Hardwired), Laguna Seca Decal, Stripped Out Interior, Debaffled Airbox, Blacked Out Kidney Grills, Fog Light Delete, M3 front bumper w/ lip, Sparco Hood Pins, Sparco Trunk Springs, NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Knob, Rokkor Coilovers, Magnaflow Muffler (11225)

Whats Coming Next: NRG Steering wheel, Corbeau Forza Seats and Sliders (X2), NRG Race Style Steering Wheel with MOMO Hub, UUC Clutch Stop,, M3 Side Moldings, Manual Window regulators
pcalahane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2010, 02:57 AM   #14
hotmilk400
Senior Member
 
hotmilk400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Posts: 1,106
iTrader: (13)
Default

their are threads that have write ups that better explain it.

their are 2 screaws, one u can find easy, as their is a hole, the other is behind the electric mirror switch (or blank panel) in the door.

i always use an interior panel remover (sears has them for like $15, and its basically a crowbar) or some people use a long screaw driver. just go around the edges on the bottom, and pop out the plastic clips.

if you happen to pull off the whole clip from the door, just remove the old glue, and re-glue with epoxy or JP weld.

its pretty easy. before u do any cutting tho, make sure that the door panel can handle the manual window handle. make sure that the handle is not in the way of the arm rest, it looks close if it is not.
__________________
Check out our new website! https://soltechsolutionsllc.com/

Green Your Decor with the Aspect! Shop for the Grow Light Used by Interior Designers, Growers & People Like You!
hotmilk400 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2010, 03:21 AM   #15
pcalahane
Senior Member
 
pcalahane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Santa Maria, CA
Posts: 277
Vehicles
iTrader: (0)
Default

Ok thanks.
__________________

-1996 318TI ACTIVE PACKAGE (ALPINE WEISS): 75-0MPH IN 3 ROLLS AND AN END TO END FLIP.
Mods: Complete M3 Body Kit, Carbon Fiber Side Mirrors, Carbon Fiber GTR Hood, Carbon Fiber Hatch, Carbon Fiber Sunroof Panel, Blacked Out Ambers and Taillights, 17' TSW Nagaro Rims, European Front License Plate, Sripped Out Interior, NRG Deep Dish Steering Wheel with MOMO Hub, NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Ball, Pioneer Avic N2 Stereo (Navigation/Bluetooth/CD), Cosmo Racing Cold Air Intake, Passenger Airbag Delete, Rear Wiper Delete, Blacked Out Kidney Grills, Projector Fog Lights, manual windows
-1996 318TI CALIFORNIA EDITION (SCHWARZ ZWEI): BACK IN BLACK!
Current Mods: European Front License Plate, Rear Wiper Delete, Bosch Miata Battery, Blacked Out Ambers, 17" Contours (non-staggered), Kenwood Stereo (Bluetooth/USB/CD), City Lights, Corner Running Light Delete, Rear Taillight Mod (//M style brake light), Passport 9500xi Radar Detector (Hardwired), Laguna Seca Decal, Stripped Out Interior, Debaffled Airbox, Blacked Out Kidney Grills, Fog Light Delete, M3 front bumper w/ lip, Sparco Hood Pins, Sparco Trunk Springs, NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Knob, Rokkor Coilovers, Magnaflow Muffler (11225)

Whats Coming Next: NRG Steering wheel, Corbeau Forza Seats and Sliders (X2), NRG Race Style Steering Wheel with MOMO Hub, UUC Clutch Stop,, M3 Side Moldings, Manual Window regulators
pcalahane is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
windows regulator Ji Money Interior and ICE 0 07-15-2010 03:34 AM
NY getrag manual trans with shifter linkage and manual dme 1996 318ti NY US and North America 6 04-30-2010 07:21 PM
WTB service manual and owners manual Old School US and North America 1 09-29-2009 04:49 PM
Brand new 318ti manual getrac manual tranny JDwyer2821 US and North America 15 09-12-2008 09:11 PM
how do i fix my poxwer windows?! toofpik Exterior 3 08-23-2008 04:34 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:53 AM.


.
Powered by site supporters
vBulletin Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2018, 318ti.org
© vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2
[page compression: 145.51 k/171.24 k (15.03%)]

318ti.org does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information or products discussed.