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Old 03-19-2009, 04:48 AM   #46
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Question for J!m I guess (or anyone who knows),

Scenario.

I have a 96 OBDII m44, and I find a good complete s50 conversion for sale that comes with:
Swap includes:
Engine Long Block(from oilpan up) W Wiring Harness
5spd Manual Transmission
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Key+EWS& ECU
Air Flow Meter
Midpipe W Cats
Stock Airbox

would any native m44 modules need to be converted to OBDI since I wouldn't buy an EWS/ECU, or harness seperate from the orignal complete s50 conversion. Thanks

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-M...Q5fAccessories

Cliffs: swap OBDII M44 out for OBDI EWS/ECU/Harness that comes with complete S50 swap (motor, tranny, EWS, ECU, Key, Harness,)

would it bolt right up if all the OBDI junk is originally from the S50 bought.
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Old 03-19-2009, 12:40 PM   #47
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You may have some issues with EWS and other wiring incompatibilities, but in a nut shell, it will work OK and you will not have the EWS (Driveaway Protection) working at all when you are done.

Note that the car will also not meet emisions standards for the 1996 model year; however since 96 was sort of a cross over year, you MAY be able to pull the wool over the inspector's eyes and have it tested as an OBD-I... Likely not, so I asume your state does not do emission testing.

If it is a track car, no problem!
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Old 03-28-2009, 04:47 PM   #48
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Hey Jim, I bought an OBDII m52b28 instead. It comes with all the wiring accessories. Do you have some manuals in stock?
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Old 03-30-2009, 08:51 PM   #49
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Does this look legit? http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/p...903815.htmlNot interested, just wondering..
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Does this look legit? http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/p...903815.htmlNot interested, just wondering..
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/pts/1464903815.html
Your link was messed up, but I found it. What exactly do you mean by "legit"? Yeah, the listing looks real if that's what you're asking. However, I wouldn't even consider buying a motor from someone on the other side of the country. After shipping, tranny/harness/ecu/ews alignment & various misc components, you're looking at > $3000. Best bet is to buy a wrecked M3 locally or as close as possible. This way you'll have almost everything you need, all from the same car and most importantly you can start it up and hear it run before you buy it.
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http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/pts/1464903815.html
Your link was messed up, but I found it. What exactly do you mean by "legit"? Yeah, the listing looks real if that's what you're asking. However, I wouldn't even consider buying a motor from someone on the other side of the country. After shipping, tranny/harness/ecu/ews alignment & various misc components, you're looking at > $3000. Best bet is to buy a wrecked M3 locally or as close as possible. This way you'll have almost everything you need, all from the same car and most importantly you can start it up and hear it run before you buy it.
I was just saying it looked cheap compared to the others I've seen.
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First thing I noticed during my swap are the plugs that are part of the main wiring hareness. My compact has 2 round plugs, but the donor engine has 3.
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First thing I noticed during my swap are the plugs that are part of the main wiring hareness. My compact has 2 round plugs, but the donor engine has 3.
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i've always had three plugs, with the M44 ti and now the S52 ti.
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I'm confused.
I will take another look under the hood, but I could swear I only had 2 plugs with my current setup (1998 M44). My question is, when I remove the M44, it will have 2 “female” plugs in place. Then when I install the S52, it will bring along with it 3 plugs. Once the S52 is in, I will have one extra S52 plug hanging with nowhere to plug into the 318ti electrical system.

Am I supposed to also drag the entire wiring system out of the donor vehicle?
Please look at image #1. That is taken from the 1997 M3. It has 3 plugs. The second image is the S52 on an engine stand, waiting to be installed in the 318ti. It obviously also has 3 plugs. That middle plug (has a white ring inside the plug) will be connected to nothing if I install it in the 318ti.
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The automatic cars and harnesses have 3 plugs... My M50 swap motor was from an auto car, and had that extra plug. When I had to source another harness, I got one from a manual, and no extra plug! Oh, and my ti came with a 5-speed manual...
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I think I found out what is wrong. Looks like the mysterious second plug actually is still there, but it must’ve fallen through its mount and resting bellow.
Sorry if I jumped the gun! I know, I freaked out this early in the project, could you imagine what it’s going to be when I insert that key for the first time after the swap
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That's actually where that connector is supposed to be. It's attached to the ABS pump.
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