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Old 12-15-2005, 09:52 PM   #1
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anyone know if this is a good lube for an LSD? i'm not sure if the bottom statement means it has the necessary additives for LSDs or not ... color me confused

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All viscosities of Max-Gearฎ are formulated with hypoid friction modifiers necessary for use in clutch or cone type differentials. No additional additives are necessary.
http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...action=product

if it is good, what weight should i get? i think i used 75W90 redline originally when i did the swap.
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anyone know if this is a good lube for an LSD? i'm not sure if the bottom statement means it has the necessary additives for LSDs or not ... color me confused



http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...action=product

if it is good, what weight should i get? i think i used 75W90 redline originally when i did the swap.
I'm using Mobile 1 75w90 in my LSD with some generic Napa LSD additive. It seems to be holding up great.
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:03 PM   #3
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generic?

if i was going to do that, i'd use my lubromoly gear oil + additive. i'd really like to know if this royal purple stuff has the additive. why can't they just say DOES or DOES NOT work with a LSD? i hate that shizat ...
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generic?

if i was going to do that, i'd use my lubromoly gear oil + additive. i'd really like to know if this royal purple stuff has the additive. why can't they just say DOES or DOES NOT work with a LSD? i hate that shizat ...
If it doesn't say, then it doesn't have it.
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I've got Redline 75w90 SN that is going in Monday. I will see how that goes. the SN is supposed to increase the lockup.
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i'd have to look to see what redline i have currently. i'll try to do that this afternoon.

found the additive Dusten mentioned if anyone's interested: http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPage...r+Oil+Additive
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Old 12-15-2005, 11:31 PM   #7
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ok, i used redline full synthetic 75w90 hypoid gear oil. it states on the bottle that it should be slick enough even for LSDs not to need any LSD additive. mine doesn't chatter with this stuff. i'm guessing the royal purple full synthetic i linked to would be fine as well. AlaskaBlue, what oil do you currently have in your LSD?
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I have Royal purple Max-gear 75w90 in my M6 LSD. This is what Ben Liaw has been putting in his cars. If it works for him, it works for me. The website sates it's got additives for LSD's

"All viscosities of Max-Gearฎ are formulated with hypoid friction modifiers necessary for use in clutch or cone type differentials. No additional additives are necessary."
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I have Royal purple Max-gear 75w90 in my M6 LSD. This is what Ben Liaw has been putting in his cars. If it works for him, it works for me. The website sates it's got additives for LSD's

"All viscosities of Max-Gearฎ are formulated with hypoid friction modifiers necessary for use in clutch or cone type differentials. No additional additives are necessary."
ok, thanks for the translation because i wasn't sure if that meant it had the LSD additives or not, lol. when i read the bottle for my redline synthetic gear oil and it said it was fine for LSDs, i was figuring the royal purple would be also. thanks for confirming clex!

guess i'll be going royal purple in the trans and the diff.
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AlaskaBlue, what oil do you currently have in your LSD?
Currently it is whatever BMW put in it. My dad doesn't remember if they have ever changed it or not. He was (still is sort of) the only other owner of the car before me. I'm hoping that it has been changed, but it still would have had whatever the dealer put in it.

I have 160k miles on the stock 3.45 LSD and it is going strong still.
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Remember lubrication is your friend!! Adding some additional LSD additive probably won't hurt.
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I have 2 bottles of the same. They are going in my 3.45 LSD with M-coupe cover, when I get around to installing it.

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I've got Redline 75w90 SN that is going in Monday. I will see how that goes. the SN is supposed to increase the lockup.
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I have 2 bottles of the same. They are going in my 3.45 LSD with M-coupe cover, when I get around to installing it.
is that just the synthetic or what is SN? i have redline synthetic in there now.
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Need to check, I''ll get back with you.

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is that just the synthetic or what is SN? i have redline synthetic in there now.
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Redline, I need to go check the weight again the garage.

plan on using Redline in the tranny as well.
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