 » Site Navigation | | | | » Recent Threads | | | |  |  |  |  03-17-2010, 01:46 AM | #1 | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: seattle Posts: 3 |  What transmission fits on a M44 engine!!!!!
hi just joined here cause it seems to be the spot for 318ti fans and gurus, so 3rd gear is gone in my ti, can anyone tell me what other transmissions are a direct bolt on to the m44 engine? i have a junk yard close with a few pre 1995 bmws some 3s some 5s and i wanted to know if any of the tranys from them would fit.
so in short i have a 1996 318ti with a m44 engine and a toasted 5 speed
are there any other 5 speeds that will bolt in of older models |  |  | | 03-17-2010, 04:09 AM | #2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: norcal - 94590 Posts: 3,186 |
Any 3 series trans from a 92-98 e36 will work, either 4 or 6 cyl. (The 5 series may work, but I cannot confirm that.) __________________ James 95 active w/leather interior and sport interior conversion, Vaders, full M-Tech exterior conversion. Now m50 swapped* Eibach sway bars, D2 Coilovers, Depo's w/AE's, blacked-out sides and grills, LeatherZ console and door armrests, 1 series starter button mod, and custom finished Style 5's <--- in this color! Named "Roddy":  *M50 6 cyl. swap with fan delete, S50 cams and chip, AFE stage 2 intake, M3 clutch and 11.5 lb Fidanza flywheel, 3.15LSD, battery relocated to rear and complete custom exhaust. Sweet!  97 318ti sport, Alaska Blue, Contours, coilovers, Dove Vaders and custom black/grey interior named "Max" 95 318ti Active in Cosmos, S50 swap in progress... named "Pit" SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | | | 03-17-2010, 04:26 AM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 1,335 |
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aren't some different lengths as well? may have to get the front half of the drive shaft as well. | | | | | 03-17-2010, 04:57 AM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 1,335 |
Quote: Originally Posted by DataTraveler  aren't some different lengths as well? may have to get the front half of the drive shaft as well. | There aren't any differences between the ZF Trans from the M3 and the Getrag. From what I know there is some differences between the trans from a 5 and a 3 __________________ Greg
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95 ti sold but staying in the family. | | | | | 03-17-2010, 02:38 PM | #6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 3,877 |
Quote: Originally Posted by DataTraveler aren't some different lengths as well? may have to get the front half of the drive shaft as well. | Yeah, the ZF trans out of a 328/M3 is longer than the Getrag. You'll need the front section of the driveshaft from the donor car too. Any E36 prior to '95 is most likely going to have a getrag 250 in it, so you would be fine with one of those. I have no idea about the 5 series transmissions. I think that the Getrag 260 from an E30 can be bolted up but it has to be shimmed. There are a bunch of threads on bimmerforums about it. The cool thing about the 260 is that 5th gear is an overdrive gear instead of 1:1 like in the 250 and ZF. __________________ ~Dave~
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Quote: Originally Posted by spidertri Yeah, the ZF trans out of a 328/M3 is longer than the Getrag. You'll need the front section of the driveshaft from the donor car too.
Any E36 prior to '95 is most likely going to have a getrag 250 in it, so you would be fine with one of those. I have no idea about the 5 series transmissions.
I think that the Getrag 260 from an E30 can be bolted up but it has to be shimmed. There are a bunch of threads on bimmerforums about it. The cool thing about the 260 is that 5th gear is an overdrive gear instead of 1:1 like in the 250 and ZF. | awesome... wait? did i actually learn something... wonder what it made me forget...  | | | | | 03-18-2010, 01:17 AM | #8 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 |
Quote: Originally Posted by spidertri Yeah, the ZF trans out of a 328/M3 is longer than the Getrag. You'll need the front section of the driveshaft from the donor car too.
Any E36 prior to '95 is most likely going to have a getrag 250 in it, so you would be fine with one of those. I have no idea about the 5 series transmissions.
I think that the Getrag 260 from an E30 can be bolted up but it has to be shimmed. There are a bunch of threads on bimmerforums about it. The cool thing about the 260 is that 5th gear is an overdrive gear instead of 1:1 like in the 250 and ZF. | What he said. Youd need the single mass flywheel setup as well as the starter if using the e30 5spd with OD. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone
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Wow thanks guys! That's exactly the info I needed, I think iam guna red more about shimming a e30 transmission cause i am sure they have one at the local yard for 50$ | | | | | 04-03-2010, 09:01 PM | #10 | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: seattle Posts: 3 |
ok, I looked for info on shiming to make a e30 trany with overdrive work with the e36 m44 engine and iam not really finding what i need,any one have a link or just wana tell me what needs to be shimmed and how much? | | | | | 04-25-2010, 03:00 AM | #11 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 |
Youre shimming the starter, not the transmission. It has to have proper alignment with the flywheel to turn it over. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone
1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | | | 06-22-2010, 05:20 PM | #12 | | Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Atl Posts: 57 |
Hey guys, I found this: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/pts/1804308653.html My second gear sychro is destroyed basically. It was that way when i got it and its been like 10k and she still rides out. ive had a manual since i was 15 so im pretty good at being gentle. But i do want to have the replacement on stand by. Will i need the front half of the drive shaft for this one? Thanks in advance. 318ti.org is king | | | | | 06-22-2010, 06:48 PM | #13 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 3,877 |
Yeah, M3s came with the ZF 5spd transmission. You'll need to find the appropriate driveshaft combination to make it work. __________________ ~Dave~
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Search | RealOEM | | | | | 06-22-2010, 08:17 PM | #14 | | Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Atl Posts: 57 |
thx i thought i would need the drive shaft but the guy already parted it out. | | | | |
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