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Old 04-19-2016, 02:59 AM   #1
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Exclamation What's wrong with my Ti??

So i finally got my 160k 5 speed Ti up and running after a bringing it back to life after a year of sitting being repaired (starter, new key, Fuel Pump, fuel filter, injectors)
Sat in the garage for that whole period

So now that it runs there is loads of white smoke as long as it's on, it runs pretty hot, and the oil has white substance and also a significant loss of coolant, there is no visible leaks that i see

I won't even lie i had to give it the beans, had to bang out a quick 1st to second pull... It still had getup if that helps

So why do yall think is the cause of these symptoms?

I kinda don't want to say or even think about this..but could it be a blown head gasket?
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So now that it runs there is loads of white smoke as long as it's on, it runs pretty hot, and the oil has white substance and also a significant loss of coolant, there is no visible leaks that i see
All tell-tale signs of a blown head gasket. The visible leak is the white smoke coming out of the exhaust... that's where your coolant is going.


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I won't even lie i had to give it the beans, had to bang out a quick 1st to second pull... It still had getup if that helps
That DEFINITELY didn't help. Not going to have getup for long if you keep that up.


My advice if you plan on keeping the car: Don't even turn the motor over again; pull the head and hope the gasket is all you're replacing but be prepared to replace the head as well, after having a machine shop check it out.

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Eh, you can flog it all day if it's warmed up- these cars are not Ford Focii...

But yeah, you have all the tell- tale signs of a blown head gasket.
Time to pop the head and see how bad it is. If it just started, get it
apart and maybe you'll be lucky to just need a gasket. But do have a shop
check the head for warpage.

Don't let it sit- the coolant will get down into the bores and corrode the cylinder walls...

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On an M42/44 that is tight with no issues, I would tend to agree with you, as least as far as the stoutness of these motors. On a motor with a blown head gasket and oil that looks like poorly mixed chocolate milk, however, no... I wouldn't go there. You're getting almost no protection on bearing and friction surfaces with oil like that.

Additionally, if it's longevity you've after, it never a good idea to 'flog' any motor repeatedly/consistently.
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Well, yes, of course, there are no free lunches.
Your mileage will suffer, too...

I DO think, and it's only my opinion, that a carefully and sympathetically
maintained engine that's used "hard", e.g. a few track days a year,
brisk acceleration on the street, etc

stands a better chance than Grandma's if she doesn't maintain it.


And agreed, if it has a bad head gasket, don't drive it. The coolant eats the
bearing material, as well as being a substandard lubricant.

But if you accelerated hard and then the headgasket blew, well, it was going to
blow soon anyway.


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Well, yes, of course, there are no free lunches.
Your mileage will suffer, too...

I DO think, and it's only my opinion, that a carefully and sympathetically
maintained engine that's used "hard", e.g. a few track days a year,
brisk acceleration on the street, etc

stands a better chance than Grandma's if she doesn't maintain it.


And agreed, if it has a bad head gasket, don't drive it. The coolant eats the
bearing material, as well as being a substandard lubricant.

But if you accelerated hard and then the headgasket blew, well, it was going to
blow soon anyway.


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The day we ran it was it's first day on in a year, with the same old oil and coolant that was already in there, also the intake rubber boot had a crack in it. I just got in the new oem intake boot today and ran it and (at Idle at least) there wasn't any smoke. I still haven't taken it around the block yet.
By any chance could the symptoms be because it's been sitting forever? Also it was using the same OLD fluids that were already in It? Thanks for all the info btw!
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Change the oil- but not the filter- fill the coolant up, and then take it around the block- get it warm.

Then look at the exhaust, check the coolant. If it all looks ok, go a mile, turn around, come
back, look again.

Then if THAT looks ok, do 10 miles on the freeway, and see if you can get home!
Take some water, and your phone and AAA card.

You won't do enough damage in 10 or 20 miles to offset the hassle of pulling the head when it didn't need it.

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