Autocross. BMW vs. Mustang

[BimmerBum]

This is what just over half a second on an autocross run looks like.

I'm on the right in the video.

These are the cars.

[slow_ti]

F*ck mustangs. Good work

[BimmerBum]

Originally Posted by slow_ti

F*ck mustangs. Good work

While I am not a big Mustang fan I have to say Ford is really getting their act together. The 2012 GT has 400hp and handles very well. The E90 M3 (manual) was Ford's benchmark for performance when they sorted the 2012's out. For the price it is hard to beat. This particular Mustang is equipped with the optional 4 piston front Brembos and the owner upgraded the rear shocks to Koni single adjustables. He also has a full coil over set up on the way from Ground Control... so unless I make a major change to the wagon soon future videos will not likely have the same outcome.

[spidertri]

Cool video, always love to see wagons performing. The new mustangs are definitely great cars for the money.

[slow_ti]

I will give them that. New ones have gotten much better

[geetarspaz]

+1 on what everyone said

[Bobtail_Bimmer]

Good job and nice vid! I have nothing against Mustangs other than the fact they are as common as a Honda Civic. Seems you cant go 5 feet with out seeing one. I just like the fact he has to tell people he lost to a wagon!

[spidertri]

They are in different classes. ESP is supposed to be slower than DSP right? It is still cool though.

[BimmerBum]

Originally Posted by spidertri

They are in different classes. ESP is supposed to be slower than DSP right? It is still cool though.

That's a hard question to answer. I suppose in theory ESP is supposed to be slower than DSP but there are many factors involved such as track layout. Also for 2 cars not outfitted to the limits of the rules for their respective classes (or in my case not the best car choice for DSP) classing looses relevance. The owner of the Mustang and I are good friends so having 2 very different cars that are so close is really a lot of fun. Generally we are within a tenth of each other.

[familytruckster]

Impressive. As a former mustang owner, I'm glad ford finally figured out that they need to make the cars turn.

I always like beating up on everyone with a wagon. Whether it is my mazda Protege5 or my Country Squire. Can't beat up on anyone in my damn ti....Except for Spider :P That will probably change this year though.

[spidertri]

That's very true about the classing. I was just thinking about it in basic terms. Much more comes into it than where the organizers decided to class a car.


Yeah yeah, you beat me, calm down over there.

[familytruckster]

Originally Posted by spidertri

That's very true about the classing. I was just thinking about it in basic terms. Much more comes into it than where the organizers decided to class a car.


Yeah yeah, you beat me, calm down over there.

Yup, once...On what, your first autocross? I doubt there will be a repeat-if I use my ti.

[Entropyman]

What, no mention of the Ti that beat the Mustang by 1.5 seconds ?

[BimmerBum]

Originally Posted by Entropyman

What, no mention of the Ti that beat the Mustang by 1.5 seconds ?

A pretty stock ti too!

[Entropyman]

As far as the "faster" class question goes ESP has a Pax values of 0.848 and DSP has a Pax value of 0.851. Basically, Pax is an SCCA handicapping system based on national level results. The higher the value, the faster the class has been at national events. Y'all probably know that already though.