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Hello...
Besides the springs, shocks, brakes diff and sway bar, are there any more differences between the stock ti rear axle and the Mcoupe one?
regards! __________________ Portuguese 318ti
MODS: Staggered M Kontours; Mtec Side Trim with M3 badges; Mtec Steering wheel with Airbag; M3 Modified Shift Lever; M3 Leather Shift Knob, Leather Centre Arm Rest; Euro Clear turn signals; M3 Electric and Heated Side Mirrors; Cat replaced by straight pipe; Mtec Rear Bumper; E36 M3 Front Brakes with EBC Drilled and Slotted Rotors and EBC Red Stuff Pads; Vader Seats. More to come!
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http://www.318ti.org/gallery/showgal...r=1407&cat=500 |  |  | | 01-19-2006, 09:16 PM | #2 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 |
subframe, trailing arms, where the parking brake cables attach ... don't think there's much left  __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray
acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts
2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles
Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | 01-19-2006, 09:25 PM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portugal - Lisboa Posts: 205 |
Sorry the newb question, but what are the Trailing arms and subframe? __________________ Portuguese 318ti
MODS: Staggered M Kontours; Mtec Side Trim with M3 badges; Mtec Steering wheel with Airbag; M3 Modified Shift Lever; M3 Leather Shift Knob, Leather Centre Arm Rest; Euro Clear turn signals; M3 Electric and Heated Side Mirrors; Cat replaced by straight pipe; Mtec Rear Bumper; E36 M3 Front Brakes with EBC Drilled and Slotted Rotors and EBC Red Stuff Pads; Vader Seats. More to come!
My Picture Gallery:
http://www.318ti.org/gallery/showgal...r=1407&cat=500 | | | | | 01-19-2006, 09:31 PM | #4 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 |
parts #1 and #7 (of course, there's one trailing arm per side): http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...99&hg=33&fg=30 __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray
acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts
2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles
Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | 01-19-2006, 09:41 PM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lincoln Park Capitol Hill, Washington DC Posts: 741 | Pics of Z3 M coupe suspension
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It's always a great day to be underwater and play with the fish.....preserve our oceans and reefs"
Fariz
1997 318ti, Hellrot (Bright Red), Dinan Stage 2 Chip
16x7 OEM sport Wheels/X-Brace/Custom Strut Brace/Cold Air Intake/M-Tec Steering Wheel/Koni Adjustable FrontShocks/ Bilstein Sport Rear Shocks /H&R Sport Springs/Custom fabricated strut tower brace/Rear Strut brace, Stromung Exhaust
Future Mods: E46 17" wheels or Kosei K-1 17x8.5s | | | | | 01-19-2006, 09:44 PM | #6 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 |
BMW strengthened the trailing arms and, according to J!m, the subframe too. the pics look the same, but they aren't the same. i sure hope they're similar or else they wouldn't work __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray
acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts
2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles
Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | 01-19-2006, 09:51 PM | #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portugal - Lisboa Posts: 205 |
Do the M roadster Rear brake calipers mount on the trailing arm? __________________ Portuguese 318ti
MODS: Staggered M Kontours; Mtec Side Trim with M3 badges; Mtec Steering wheel with Airbag; M3 Modified Shift Lever; M3 Leather Shift Knob, Leather Centre Arm Rest; Euro Clear turn signals; M3 Electric and Heated Side Mirrors; Cat replaced by straight pipe; Mtec Rear Bumper; E36 M3 Front Brakes with EBC Drilled and Slotted Rotors and EBC Red Stuff Pads; Vader Seats. More to come!
My Picture Gallery:
http://www.318ti.org/gallery/showgal...r=1407&cat=500 | | | | | 01-20-2006, 12:55 AM | #8 | | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 |
The M roadster sub-frame is substantially larger in just about all dimensions, but mounts to the same locations in the ti with no problems at all. (I had less mufler clearance with the M roadster sub frame assembly installed) Also, the half-shafts are A LOT beefier than the ti ones. I would guess double the weight based on my eye (I did not disassemble and weigh parts)- the diameter is much larger and the CV joints are much larger. I had to NOT use the factory e-brake cable clips on the M roadster trailing arms, as the cables are just a bit too short wrapping around the beefed up trailing arms. I used some 1/2 inch wide zip-ties (rated for about 100lb each I think) to hold the cable to the trailing arms. The roadster cables are WAY too short to be used; perhaps the M3 cables will work, but I did not try them. The brake pipes need to be cut, re-bent and re-flared (European flare), or replaced completely with new ones. The pipe enters the caliper at a different location on the M calipers than on the ti calipers, but it's not a huge deal. Also, on the roadster, the pipe 'wyes' on the car body and the two flex pipes enter the calipers directly from above, whereas on the ti it 'wyes' on the sub frame, and two hard lines go to each caliper. The nice thing is the mounting tabs for the "ti way" are on the sub-frame, unused by the roadster, just waiting for this swap! It really is an easy swap. The ti drive shaft bolts right onto the M roadster diff input flange, all the ti mounting bolts are reused... Why does everyone try to mix and match parts? If I break down, I can get a part at any dealer. M roadster rear suspension, M3 front suspension. It makes life much easier down the road, and I like easy...  | | | | | 01-20-2006, 12:59 AM | #9 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 |
i may consider it once i supercharge. where does one find a whole subframe? i'm also guessing the cost is a good bit more now (say $2k or more). __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray
acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts
2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles
Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | 01-20-2006, 01:10 AM | #10 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lincoln Park Capitol Hill, Washington DC Posts: 741 |
Beefier subframe, better traction better everything......however and unforitunately......I wonder if the E36 rear frame structural integrity may be more compromised without serious reinforcements. In addition to better shock mounts, reinforcements to the shock mount's sheet metal that involves welding? Any thoughts on this?  __________________
It's always a great day to be underwater and play with the fish.....preserve our oceans and reefs"
Fariz
1997 318ti, Hellrot (Bright Red), Dinan Stage 2 Chip
16x7 OEM sport Wheels/X-Brace/Custom Strut Brace/Cold Air Intake/M-Tec Steering Wheel/Koni Adjustable FrontShocks/ Bilstein Sport Rear Shocks /H&R Sport Springs/Custom fabricated strut tower brace/Rear Strut brace, Stromung Exhaust
Future Mods: E46 17" wheels or Kosei K-1 17x8.5s | | | | | 01-20-2006, 01:31 AM | #11 | | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 |
I've been driving on mine for quite a bit of time, quite a few miles (several trips from CT to WV as well) and no problems to report at all! | | | | |
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