JohnBoy's Turbo Build

[xxxJohnBoyxxx]

Originally Posted by marko

Not soon enough, I'm afraid... getting another update tomorow but it seems they are having issues with it.

blew the radiator + fried the starter + wont run properly + Snow is not firing properly + went down on injector size to 35lbs, etc... getting nervous, I think I am.

Your ok I just spoke to Teddy. We talked about some changes to the meth system. It needs to go to boost activation for one and drop to the smaller 175 jet. Also I don't suggest putting on the 3" pulley. I asked Teddy to machine the supercharger to accept the 3" pulley but don't install. The 3.2" is boosting over 12psi now at 1,700+ feet above sea level...At sea level you are going to be in the high 14 to low 15's psi is my guess. If not the SC is ready for a 3" pulley if you choose to put it on and it is a 10 minute job. Your car at 10:1 or a little lower and is going to be very strong and on the edge at 15psi with the methenol. I would not push much more until you feel it out and decide if all is good and you want to add that 3" pulley. Maybe do it after 2,500 miles and some good close looks at your plugs for aluminum after a few hard runs. The code issues on the DME are being worked out. I'm involved with it since I have the same issues. It is a injector variable multiplier that is set too high causing the DME to adjust adaption values out of it's acceptable range. When that happens it codes and we don't know why but the DME won't keep a steady idle with that code active. I'm going to test some modified code in an effort to clear this issue on the 42.8# Lucas before I jump to the 60# Delphi injectors. Looking to start testing the newer code this weekend.

Marko ~ Trust me they are on it and I'm testing and logging and they are dynoing and logging....We will figure this out quick and get you your car back

[marko]

Hey John, thanks man!!

I spoke to Teddy earlier today & thats exactly what he said - word for word. I appreciate the fact your are helping him out. And so does he... & I feel consequently so much more at easy now.

Yep, it turned up a whoping 15 psi with a 3 inch pulley?! Insane, right? So they had to dial it down a bit...LOL Teddy said, torque wise, it pulls nice & real hard till about 4,700rpm, after which it bogs down for a bit, till it resumes to ramp up toward the upper end again.

In retrospect (I even told Teddy this), I should have never insited on 9.8:1 compression & should have let them set me up with a 8.5:1 FI motor. But hey, live & learn. Still gonna be bad ass, I think...

Yeah, I was geting a bit worried when I spoke to him last, only cause at the time he didnt have the answers for idling issues & snow problems... but I think its all better now.

Next week its gonna be dyno time & hopefully some prime results!

I'll keep you posted & if I'm ever in FLA passing through the town, I stopping by & buying you a few beers.

Cheers man!

Originally Posted by xxxJohnBoyxxx

Your ok I just spoke to Teddy. We talked about some changes to the meth system. It needs to go to boost activation for one and drop to the smaller 175 jet. Also I don't suggest putting on the 3" pulley. I asked Teddy to machine the supercharger to accept the 3" pulley but don't install. The 3.2" is boosting over 12psi now at 1,700+ feet above sea level...At sea level you are going to be in the high 14 to low 15's psi is my guess. If not the SC is ready for a 3" pulley if you choose to put it on and it is a 10 minute job. Your car at 10:1 or a little lower and is going to be very strong and on the edge at 15psi with the methenol. I would not push much more until you feel it out and decide if all is good and you want to add that 3" pulley. Maybe do it after 2,500 miles and some good close looks at your plugs for aluminum after a few hard runs. The code issues on the DME are being worked out. I'm involved with it since I have the same issues. It is a injector variable multiplier that is set too high causing the DME to adjust adaption values out of it's acceptable range. When that happens it codes and we don't know why but the DME won't keep a steady idle with that code active. I'm going to test some modified code in an effort to clear this issue on the 42.8# Lucas before I jump to the 60# Delphi injectors. Looking to start testing the newer code this weekend.

Marko ~ Trust me they are on it and I'm testing and logging and they are dynoing and logging....We will figure this out quick and get you your car back

[xxxJohnBoyxxx]

Originally Posted by marko

Hey John, thanks man!!

I spoke to Teddy earlier today & thats exactly what he said - word for word. I appreciate the fact your are helping him out. And so does he... & I feel consequently so much more at easy now.

Yep, it turned up a whoping 15 psi with a 3 inch pulley?! Insane, right? So they had to dial it down a bit...LOL Teddy said, torque wise, it pulls nice & real hard till about 4,700rpm, after which it bogs down for a bit, till it resumes to ramp up toward the upper end again.

In retrospect (I even told Teddy this), I should have never insited on 9.8:1 compression & should have let them set me up with a 8.5:1 FI motor. But hey, live & learn. Still gonna be bad ass, I think...

Yeah, I was geting a bit worried when I spoke to him last, only cause at the time he didnt have the answers for idling issues & snow problems... but I think its all better now.

Next week its gonna be dyno time & hopefully some prime results!

I'll keep you posted & if I'm ever in FLA passing through the town, I stopping by & buying you a few beers.

Cheers man!

Yea that mid pull stumble is usually too much methenol so I suggested a smaller jet which is the one I use. I don't like the MAF control for injection of Meth I like to dump the load by boost pressure only. We are only using it for intercooling and octane properties anyways so why have it spraying when your sc is at 1-2 pounds? Don't get me wrong your car is going to really put down some big numbers even with the normal compression. It will be a mid 13's car maybe even low 13's if you drop a little wieght.

[nuvolarossa]

I'm writing just to say to all people who want to use the obx manifold that oil pump for drain line is required. I tried today the hard way.
You will kill the turbo.

Simply the oil level in the pan is too high.

So remember, place the turbo HIGH with a custom manifold or buy the oil pump.

[xxxJohnBoyxxx]

Originally Posted by nuvolarossa

I'm writing just to say to all people who want to use the obx manifold that oil pump for drain line is required. I tried today the hard way.
You will kill the turbo.

Simply the oil level in the pan is too high.

So remember, place the turbo HIGH with a custom manifold or buy the oil pump.

True Statement

[marko]

God Bless You! LOL

Originally Posted by xxxJohnBoyxxx

Don't get me wrong your car is going to really put down some big numbers even with the normal compression. It will be a mid 13's car maybe even low 13's if you drop a little wieght.

[pnosker]

FYI, I'm using a 250cc/min jet (what are you using John?) and it didn't bog my motor down at all today. It seemed to work perfectly. I wonder if it's just eating through water/meth though.

[xxxJohnBoyxxx]

Originally Posted by pnosker

FYI, I'm using a 250cc/min jet (what are you using John?) and it didn't bog my motor down at all today. It seemed to work perfectly. I wonder if it's just eating through water/meth though.

Pat you sould be on a 175. I'm on a 380(?) I think now cause I'm getting ready to slam 25psi. If you run too much you will know cause the motor will miss fire and you will have to fill the bottle often.

Just enough to cool the charge guys, it's not nitrous!!!

[xxxJohnBoyxxx]

Today's the big day for me. In one hour the DMV hearing officer calls me and asks me a bunch of questions. Hopefully he will grant me my hardship license back and I will be driving to work for the first time in 30 days by 9am.

[96cali]

good luck!

[pnosker]

Originally Posted by xxxJohnBoyxxx

Pat you sould be on a 175. I'm on a 380(?) I think now cause I'm getting ready to slam 25psi. If you run too much you will know cause the motor will miss fire and you will have to fill the bottle often.

Just enough to cool the charge guys, it's not nitrous!!!

My pump is only 150 psi, but I used the calculator from Devil's meth injection and it told me I need more than 200.

It's not misfiring at all but if it starts to I'll buy the 170 injector.

BTW Hope your call went well.

[xxxJohnBoyxxx]

I'm driving.

Went to work and blew the ICV apart. I have it on my desk now trying to put it back together and maybe JB weld it so it stays together. Only two pounds of boost lost with that thing breathing free but the 3,000 idle sucked for the 1 mile till I hit work...

[pnosker]

Awesome! At least you can drive again... good luck fixing that.

How's the car drivewise?

[lpcapital]

Originally Posted by xxxJohnBoyxxx

I'm driving.

Went to work and blew the ICV apart. I have it on my desk now trying to put it back together and maybe JB weld it so it stays together. Only two pounds of boost lost with that thing breathing free but the 3,000 idle sucked for the 1 mile till I hit work...

I have a spare if you want it

[pnosker]

John, I can't get any more than 14 psi boost with the W/I and 3.2" pulley. Not that it matters... the car still NUKES the road even with my 2.93 rear end.