» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | looove 04-16-2024 01:18 PM 04-16-2024 01:18 PM 0 Replies, 1,956 Views | | | | | | 02-01-2006, 11:42 PM | #1 | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: WI Posts: 19 | M44 swap, now the car won't start.... I blew my engine out in my '98 318ti and swapped it with another m44 engine from a '98 z3. After installing it, I got it to start up after playing with the transmission for awhile and I let it run for about 1/2 hour before turning it off. Now the darn thing won't even turn over..... Anybody have any thoughts?? I have an automatic transmission and the m44 I just put in came from a manual....could that have something to do with it?? | | | 02-01-2006, 11:55 PM | #2 | TRETEN IRGENDEINES ESELS Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 3,687 | I don't know what to say,somebody else with some knowledge will hopefully see this thread. It shouldn't matter if it came out of a manual to an auto so i don't think that has anything to do with it. __________________ 98 Avus Blue 318 ti Active clear outs all around,stealth turning signals,blue led interior lights, 35% tinted windows,K&N air filter, 12" Kenwood Sub, MTX Thunder Amp,Alpine cd changer, Leatherz Armrest,ACS Pedals/Handbrake/FloorMats & Vitesse Tuning Carbon Fiber B-Pillars/CF Spark Plug Cover, New 16" MSW Typer 14 Rims on Goodyear Triple Treds www.myspace.com/avusblueti | | | 02-02-2006, 01:27 AM | #3 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | Did you use your original wiring harness on the ti engine as well a the original DME from the ti? If so, I would think you would be home free. Since it did start first try, then won't re-start, I would check all your electrical connections on the engine. If it did not start at all, I would think the Driveaway protection was the culprit... | | | 02-02-2006, 01:37 AM | #4 | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: WI Posts: 19 | Yeah, we used all my original wiring harnesses and the DME and no go. I thought maybe it was the Driveaway protection also but it did start to begin with and I have read that it shouldn't be an issue since it was the same engine (m44) that I took out..... A bunch of warning lights came on when I first started it up, is this normal too? I replaced the water pump and the battery, so I'm pretty sure it can't be the battery......I will just have to check all of the electrical connections again, like you said. Thanks- | | | 02-02-2006, 01:57 AM | #5 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | The "Vegas effect" (all the lights coming on) makes sence as you basically did a complete brain transplant... Another idea which occured to me is some of the sensors on the 'new' engine may be bad/intermittent. If you don't have a code reader, tow it to a dealer and ask them to scan it, and report back before any work is done... | | | 02-02-2006, 03:02 AM | #6 | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: WI Posts: 19 | Its at a shop right now, I'll ask them tomorrow to scan it. Thanks Jim | | | 02-02-2006, 03:05 AM | #7 | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: WI Posts: 19 | Just another thought.......my gauge cluster is bad and I never had a chance to replace it (ie, the temperature gauge doesn't work anymore neither does the rpm gauge, which is the reason I overheated it in the first place)....could this have something to do with it? Should I get a new one in there right away? | | | 02-02-2006, 03:33 AM | #8 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | I'll sell you my fully functional 1998 cluster for $100.00 or best offer. Rebuilt unit from the dealer will be around $250.00 (ask while you're there to confirm). I have the six now, and the 1.9 cluster is just collecting dust... | | | 02-02-2006, 03:49 AM | #9 | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: WI Posts: 19 | I actually bought one a week before I blew my engine....your right, it was about $250. Attempted to put it in myself but found that my hands were too big to get behind there to undo the connectors.....so I waited for the shop to do it for me....waiting ended up being very costly to me! haha You sound like you really know your stuff, could I fly you over to WI to work on my car?? kidding..... | | | 02-02-2006, 03:53 AM | #10 | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 | where are you in WI? there are some members in WI. __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts 2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | 02-02-2006, 04:03 AM | #11 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | Well, sorry for your loss. Let's hope everyone learns from this, and keeps up with the boring maintenance items and not just how to extract 2.7 HP points... | | | 02-03-2006, 03:52 AM | #12 | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: WI Posts: 19 | Problem solved....the ground from the battery came loose. Popped off right when we tightened it. Thanks for all your help! | | | 02-03-2006, 03:58 AM | #13 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Asheville NC Posts: 669 | sounds so familiar... when I did my first engine swap (it was an 87 325is) I didn't tighten down the grounding point that goes under the bolt on the passenger's side shock tower. The car would drive great and then cut out and not start... ended up getting it towed home twice, spent about $500 on different parts, only to find out that when my 12v work light was clipped on the car would work, and when it was unclipped the car would die... it's the simple things that'll get you! | | | 02-28-2006, 11:25 PM | #14 | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: corona, ca Posts: 10 | guys, im new hear. i also blew up my engine from my 1997 318ti. what should i do? i already talked to a mechanic and he told me $3600 for a used m44 engine. is this a good deal or should i go with a swap.? thanks | | | 03-01-2006, 01:09 AM | #15 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Asheville NC Posts: 669 | Quote: Originally Posted by kirby318ti guys, im new hear. i also blew up my engine from my 1997 318ti. what should i do? i already talked to a mechanic and he told me $3600 for a used m44 engine. is this a good deal or should i go with a swap.? thanks | what "blew up"? I'd guess that price is kinda high. go to www.car-part.com and see what engines are going for in your area, I'd guess that for $1500 you could get something decent, then $400-$500 for someone to install it for you. | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |