» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | 1999 M3 Swap 09-07-2023 10:10 PM 05-02-2024 08:18 PM 6 Replies, 405,508 Views | | | | | 05-05-2010, 06:35 PM | #1 | Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: chicago Posts: 42 | 328i cluster into a 318ti Doing a lot of little improvements on my TI and found a good price on a 328i cluster but ive been told the EWS will not allow my car to start if I swap in the 328 cluster into the 318....my TI is obd one...will this be an issue or is there a way to do it? | | | 05-05-2010, 07:20 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 | Your tach is not going to be correct either. __________________ ...steven BMW CCA #146825 1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i www.bmwcca.org | | | 05-05-2010, 08:01 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Raleigh/Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,233 | Re: 328i cluster into a 318ti I have an obd1 318ti cluster if you need it Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk __________________ -Jeff | | | 05-06-2010, 07:58 AM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bremerhaven, Germany Posts: 977 | Quote: Originally Posted by 1996 328ti Your tach is not going to be correct either. | Recoding the cluster will fix that, but I suspect it isn't possible to recode a non-compact E36 cluster in an E36 'ti. If I remember correctly, the 'ti only has a single diagnostic bus connection to its cluster whereas the others models have and expect two. A possible work around would be to first recode the cluster in, say, a like-engined 318i(s) and then move it to the 'ti. Would the fuel senders and tanks be similar enough? Last edited by John Firestone; 05-06-2010 at 08:04 AM. | | | 05-18-2010, 01:36 PM | #5 | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bude,Cornwall,UK Posts: 10 | ive just installed a 328i cluster into a 318ti...... Mpg gauge does respond but only does 0mpg or 50 mpg which i know is not right! Everything else works when its plugged in,my question is how can i get mog to work?? Anyone know how? | | | 05-18-2010, 04:33 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: maritimes Posts: 1,433 | John, Ive never heard of anyone recoding a 6cyl cluster to work in a 4cyl or vice versa to display a proper tach reading.. I know in the test functions it gives an EngineCode02 or 04 for 6cyl (i forget exactly) or something similar which controls the function but even when testing is unlocked, there is no way to cycle through the engine code that im aware of. Bonesy, the MPG will go full on or full off but it won't display correctly, there is a fix IIRC here somewhere that someone on here figured out - Bluebimma I think, just adding a pin to one of the "twistcap" connectors. It looked straight forward but its been awhile since I looked at it. Is your 328 tach really reading proper RPM's on the 4cyl?? I know a 4cyl tach won't display 6cyl RPM's properly,... __________________ 11/97 Base 328Ti Last edited by Philly; 05-18-2010 at 04:38 PM. | | | 05-18-2010, 06:44 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bremerhaven, Germany Posts: 977 | Quote: Originally Posted by Philly John, Ive never heard of anyone recoding a 6cyl cluster to work in a 4cyl or vice versa to display a proper tach reading.... | It's a pretty ordinary thing to do, in fact if you don't recode a cluster to the car's ZCS, you can make other modules do strange things should you later code them. It's perhaps a bigger problem here because of all the different models that were offered. I once used my car to help a fellow recode his engine-swapped, 318is touring. We couldn't get the DIS tester to code for that engine because BMW never made such a model! Last edited by John Firestone; 05-18-2010 at 07:03 PM. | | | 05-18-2010, 07:07 PM | #8 | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bude,Cornwall,UK Posts: 10 | Quote: Originally Posted by Philly Bonesy, the MPG will go full on or full off but it won't display correctly, there is a fix IIRC here somewhere that someone on here figured out - Bluebimma I think, just adding a pin to one of the "twistcap" connectors. It looked straight forward but its been awhile since I looked at it. Is your 328 tach really reading proper RPM's on the 4cyl?? I know a 4cyl tach won't display 6cyl RPM's properly,... | After driving into town i did notice the tach wasnt reading correctly,i am going to check part numbers on the RPM Motor and see if i can sort it there.I have just searched through and cannot fins a post on this fix so will pm bluebimma now Thankyou for your help | | | 05-18-2010, 09:30 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: maritimes Posts: 1,433 | Quote: Originally Posted by John Firestone It's a pretty ordinary thing to do, in fact if you don't recode a cluster to the car's ZCS, you can make other modules do strange things should you later code them. It's perhaps a bigger problem here because of all the different models that were offered. I once used my car to help a fellow recode his engine-swapped, 318is touring. We couldn't get the DIS tester to code for that engine because BMW never made such a model! | can you reference my to a website or something that states how to do this? because Id like to put my old 318 KMh only speedo back in instead of swapping faces but was told it was not possible to do and retain a proper RPM reading from the tachometer and all my research turned up was that I needed a 6cyl speedo. __________________ 11/97 Base 328Ti | | | 05-18-2010, 10:11 PM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bremerhaven, Germany Posts: 977 | What's the part number of the km/h cluster you want to install? | | | 05-18-2010, 11:18 PM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: maritimes Posts: 1,433 | its for a Canadian spec 1998 318ti... when I swapped motors, tach was wonky (as with all swaps) until I switch to a 328 cluster. Both OBDII. Id like to use my old one because its in better shape but never thought it was possible. __________________ 11/97 Base 328Ti | | | 05-19-2010, 02:59 AM | #12 | NOBODY F's with the Jesus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura California Posts: 7,824 | OK, why are you guys putting 328 clusters in your cars? I understand why Philly did, he has a 6cyl swap. But the OP doesn't even have an OBDII car, let alone a 6cyl It's not an upgrade by any means. There's no rhyme or reason to swap clusters unless you have an engine swap. And even then, you should use the corresponding cluster that will work with your swap ie; 6cyl OBDI cluster for M50/S50, 6cyl OBDII for M52/S52, 4cyl OBDI for M42 or 4cyl OBDII for M44's. | | | 05-19-2010, 11:29 AM | #13 | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bude,Cornwall,UK Posts: 10 | i want to know how many mpg im getting lol.With fuel prices rocketing in the UK (1.20 GBP per Litre or 5.50 GBP per gallon!) id like to see if i need to get a smaller car as i now have to do a 40mile trip to work,i dont care the RPM's are wrong i just want a MPG Readout | | | 05-19-2010, 12:06 PM | #14 | NOBODY F's with the Jesus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura California Posts: 7,824 | Quote: Originally Posted by bonesy i want to know how many mpg im getting lol.With fuel prices rocketing in the UK (1.20 GBP per Litre or 5.50 GBP per gallon!) id like to see if i need to get a smaller car as i now have to do a 40mile trip to work,i dont care the RPM's are wrong i just want a MPG Readout | You have a '98, isn't that OBDII in the UK? If so, you should consider one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ScanGauge-II-OBD...item3a5ae6ea5d | | | 05-19-2010, 02:30 PM | #15 | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bude,Cornwall,UK Posts: 10 | Sorry jess could you please explain? i do not have a clue what OBD2 is and how i can tell,let alone how i would fit that thing!? | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |