Help, Door panel clip failure!

[tonymasone]

Here's the problem, this is the 2nd time the clips that hold the door panel to the door have failed. I need a diagram of the position of the clips, because the glue that i used the 2nd time around to fix the doors covered up the numbers on the door, but i can still see the numbers on the clip, so i just need a diagram of where they go. Also a suggestion on a good adhesive would be helpful!

[1996 328ti]

I don't think there is a diagram since the clips and the door panel are one piece. Some of the clips are obvious. Find two of the obvious ones and just follow the numbers around. They are all in order. Phil drilled holes through the black fasteners so the glue could ooze through acting like a rivet. I think he used Gorilla glue. I used at the advice of the NAPA store, 3M weather stripping adhesive. It did not work well. I did it twice despite letting it dry for hours.

[tonymasone]

i like the idea of drilling the holes, i'll look for some kick ass glue and try it out.

[bmw318tiChic]

I've been through the process of re-gluing my door panel clips many times, with many different glues. I went to a craft/fabric store and picked up this glue called "E6000" and it has worked very well. It's super heavy duty super glue.

[tonymasone]

thanks for the info, i'll look for that

[cali-ti]

i'm guessing these clips are similar to the ones for the rear inside quarters. i just used 5 minute epoxy to glue one of mine back on, we'll see how that works

[changus]

I just recently had to fix my power window track and found that I have a few loose door fasteners and a few missing ones. Ill try the tips for securing the loose ones but does anyone know how or where i might find replacements for the missing ones. At this point I'm willing to buy the whole set becuse I have to go back in to install new tweets and didnt reallize that they were numbered when I was in there last week.

[stormos]

the joys of araldite! you'd need a blow torch to get it off.....

[96ti]

Epoxy Multipurpose is the way to go. this thing stick to anything, including metal. Try the 90 second one if you are impatient.

[1996 328ti]

Originally Posted by changus

I just recently had to fix my power window track and found that I have a few loose door fasteners and a few missing ones. Ill try the tips for securing the loose ones but does anyone know how or where i might find replacements for the missing ones. At this point I'm willing to buy the whole set becuse I have to go back in to install new tweets and didnt reallize that they were numbered when I was in there last week.

The parts are cheap. I picked up a dozen.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...67&hg=51&fg=50
fig 2 51411973500

[changus]

I was looking at the diagram and saw the item 51451885649 "Nut Holder" is this the black tower piece that holds the little clips? I've also noticed that it appears that I have a few of them missing as well. I read other threads that stated these things are numbered, I'm not sure what numbers I need, but know I need them. Does anyone know if the "nut holder" is that piece or where I might find them?

[Phil Marx]

Originally Posted by 1996 328ti

Phil drilled holes through the black fasteners so the glue could ooze through acting like a rivet. I think he used Gorilla glue. I used at the advice of the NAPA store, 3M weather stripping adhesive. It did not work well. I did it twice despite letting it dry for hours.

Actually I used JB Weld (JB Quick) which set in 15 minutes. Seems to work fine, but I'm sure drilling the holes helped.

-Phil

[1996 328ti]

Originally Posted by changus

I was looking at the diagram and saw the item 51451885649 "Nut Holder" is this the black tower piece that holds the little clips? I've also noticed that it appears that I have a few of them missing as well. I read other threads that stated these things are numbered, I'm not sure what numbers I need, but know I need them. Does anyone know if the "nut holder" is that piece or where I might find them?

The numbered parts are glued to the door panel. You can not buy them separately. It is considered the door panel.

[1996 328ti]

Originally Posted by Phil Marx

Actually I used JB Weld (JB Quick) which set in 15 minutes. Seems to work fine, but I'm sure drilling the holes helped.

-Phil

Sorry about that. I must have seen the Gorilla Glue ad one too many times. BTW- I like that we have a cult car. Seeya at Ofest.

[tonymasone]

ya you are definately correct about that one, i went to the bmw dealer and he showed me his "parts slides" of each part of the car and the parts they sell, the door clips are part of the door. in fact he didn't even know what i was talking about, actually now that i remember he didn't even know what e36 ment. :-/ i find more help in this forum then at the bmw dealer.