1999 318ti m44 vs. H22 1999 Honda prelude - Page 2

318racer · 06-10-2007, 05:38 AM

hey guys, we called it a tie for now, cuz it was even when we raced. His low end torque sucked! i took off, and he caught up around to me when i was at 5500 rpms in 3rd gear. Then i shifted to fourth and he was gaining a lead, and i downshifted to third and shot off and evened it out But hes getting brand new tires, and we are reracing, Also, my friend with the lude lost to a civic si hatchback with a b-16 swap, and i took the b 16 swap around the curvy half mile course at the airport service roads that are abandoned. Im pretty surprised i thought 318tis were slower. I guess aa well tuned ti has potential

AutoM3otives · 06-10-2007, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 318racer

Then i shifted to fourth and he was gaining a lead, and i downshifted to third and shot off and evened it out

Uh I thought you were drag-racing?

pnosker · 06-10-2007, 05:46 AM

I suggest you fogg the airbox. While it doesn't help much, the key is that around 5700+ rpms you have better response and the drop off of power is not as bad.

HuGo · 06-10-2007, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 318racer

hey guys, we called it a tie for now, cuz it was even when we raced. His low end torque sucked! i took off, and he caught up around to me when i was at 5500 rpms in 3rd gear. Then i shifted to fourth and he was gaining a lead, and i downshifted to third and shot off and evened it out But hes getting brand new tires, and we are reracing, Also, my friend with the lude lost to a civic si hatchback with a b-16 swap, and i took the b 16 swap around the curvy half mile course at the airport service roads that are abandoned. Im pretty surprised i thought 318tis were slower. I guess aa well tuned ti has potential

WTF???

You were at 5500 rpms in 3rd, then shifted into 4th. So you were in 4th and decided to go back to third? WHAT THE F*CK!!!

Your lucky you didnt blow that engine.

****"This only qualifies in a drag race. If you were in 4th, and did a turn, hit the brakes, then went into 3rd then i understand****"

If this indeed was a drag race, then your stupid.

318racer · 06-10-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HuGo

WTF???

You were at 5500 rpms in 3rd, then shifted into 4th. So you were in 4th and decided to go back to third? WHAT THE F*CK!!!

Your lucky you didnt blow that engine.

****"This only qualifies in a drag race. If you were in 4th, and did a turn, hit the brakes, then went into 3rd then i understand****"

If this indeed was a drag race, then your stupid.

yea ive done that before, i downshift into a lower gear, it hits higher rpms but it shoooots off like no other. oh and this was at the begining part of the racer that was straighter and not as many turns, caught up after the turns.

larryn · 06-10-2007, 06:45 PM

That's normally called a money shift. You shouldn't do that, unless you have spare engines laying around. It overrevs the engine, makes a heck of a racket, and usually bends a rod, or shoots it through the side of the block.

Since you don't paperweight powering your car, you're lucky. You might not want to do that again.

HuGo · 06-10-2007, 09:25 PM

Yup. I mean you went through all the rpms through 3rd gear and go 4th. So im sure you wernt in like 3k rpms in 4th. So when you shifted back to 3rd, you should have gone straight to 7krpms and popped that motor.

I think you watched Fast and Furious to much. Down shifting when you are in high rpms.

pnosker · 06-10-2007, 10:41 PM

HuGo, hitting 7k rpms once will not pop the motor. Maybe bend a valve, if you didn't clutch quickly, but in all likeliness nothing bad happened. I've seen M42s and M44s hit 8k rpms for a sec without any valve bending.

**1996 328ti** · 06-10-2007, 10:45 PM

I've hit +7K twice and luckily got the clutch in quick enough.

HuGo · 06-10-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 1996 328ti

I've hit +7K twice and luckily got the clutch in quick enough.

Yea i know you can do that. But it doesnt sound like this guy did that.

318racer · 06-11-2007, 03:24 AM

i didnt think it would be that bad for the engine, i do it evrytime i race! well i guess i wont anymore...

DustenT · 06-11-2007, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 318racer

Im a preety novice driver soo all tips would be appreciated.

If you are a novice driver, you shouldn't be racing...

If you car has the stock ECU programming then your rev limiter will kick in before you damage anything.

318racer · 06-11-2007, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DustenT

If you are a novice driver, you shouldn't be racing...

i can handle y car pretty safely in a race. I race all the time, and have never crashed due to a race, i know my limits, and dont push them. i appreciate the concern tho.

DustenT · 06-11-2007, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 318racer

I race all the time

Then you aren't really a novice are you?

HuGo · 06-11-2007, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DustenT

If you are a novice driver, you shouldn't be racing...

If you car has the stock ECU programming then your rev limiter will kick in before you damage anything.

Would that still be the case in case i went from 3rd to 2nd instead of 3rd to 4th even when my rev limiter will be raced to 6,800?

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