1999 318ti m44 vs. H22 1999 Honda prelude

[HuGo]

Originally Posted by 318racer

I race all the time.

Well there you have it. Your true all the time racer.

Not me.

[DustenT]

Originally Posted by HuGo

Would that still be the case in case i went from 3rd to 2nd instead of 3rd to 4th even when my rev limiter will be raced to 6,800?

The rev-limiter won't help with a money shift unfortunately.

[HuGo]

Originally Posted by DustenT

The rev-limiter won't help with a money shift unfortunately.

Well isnt that what he did? He went from high rpms 4th into 3rd? Pretty much the same thing.

[DustenT]

Originally Posted by HuGo

Well isnt that what he did? He went from high rpms 4th into 3rd? Pretty much the same thing.

It sounds like he just downshifted to get more power at the top of the rev range, that's fine as long as you don't go above 6800 rpms.

The rev-limiter basically can only do it job when you rev up to it, not when you rev over it. If that makes sense.

When I autocross there are usually sections that where I hit my rev-limiter. I'll keep the car floored at the top of 2nd gear and just bounce of the rev-limiter instead of shifting into 3rd, that way I don't have to worry about downshifting again. This does not hurt the car.

[HuGo]

Originally Posted by DustenT

It sounds like he just downshifted to get more power at the top of the rev range, that's fine as long as you don't go above 6800 rpms.

The rev-limiter basically can only do it job when you rev up to it, not when you rev over it. If that makes sense.

When I autocross there are usually sections that where I hit my rev-limiter. I'll keep the car floored at the top of 2nd gear and just bounce of the rev-limiter instead of shifting into 3rd, that way I don't have to worry about downshifting again. This does not hurt the car.

I knew that part about the rev limiter.

What i didnt know was you can bounce off your limiter and do absolutely no damage by keeping it there and not shifting. I figured when you hit the rev limiter it would bounce so that you dont blow the engine and you say "oh crap i need to shift" and shift right away when it starts bouncing. Well how long can you have your engine bouncing without shifting before that motor blows? I always hear when people are drifting their cars, they are always bouncing their engine and they dont shift.

[pnosker]

I seem to remember hearing that the M44 can stay at its limiter for hours at a time safely. 6500 rpm is not overly high for this motor, it might wear slightly more but it's not a big deal.

[HuGo]

Originally Posted by pnosker

I seem to remember hearing that the M44 can stay at its limiter for hours at a time safely. 6500 rpm is not overly high for this motor, it might wear slightly more but it's not a big deal.

What about 6800? Dangerous or not?

[BleMW]

what about 15000? this seems like a common sense thread.

[AutoM3otives]

Originally Posted by BleMW

what about 15000? this seems like a common sense thread.

Unfortunately, some people lack such common sense.

[318racer]

Originally Posted by DustenT

It sounds like he just downshifted to get more power at the top of the rev range, that's fine as long as you don't go above 6800 rpms.

The rev-limiter basically can only do it job when you rev up to it, not when you rev over it. If that makes sense.

When I autocross there are usually sections that where I hit my rev-limiter. I'll keep the car floored at the top of 2nd gear and just bounce of the rev-limiter instead of shifting into 3rd, that way I don't have to worry about downshifting again. This does not hurt the car.

yea dustenT's got it right.. thats what i did. I mean i didnt think it was too bad. When i race or try to go fast, i normally shift at around 6500 and it dosent really do anything bad to my engine. But here ill give more dtail on what i did, as soon as i hit likee 4,000 rpms (around that dont remember) instead of shifting up, i shifted down, and i think it hit around redline, and the car shot off, after i was there for a couple seconds, then i shifted up again, i find that this little time gives me a decent gain, that i wouldnt have if i shifted up normally... is this not a great i dea?

[318racer]

Originally Posted by HuGo

Well there you have it. Your true all the time racer.

Not me.

well i race a decent amount, but im not the best driver... all i can say is that i can handle my car car pretty well but im sure im nothing compared to some of the guys on this forum

[HuGo]

Originally Posted by 318racer

well i race a decent amount, but im not the best driver... all i can say is that i can handle my car car pretty well but im sure im nothing compared to some of the guys on this forum

I can easily dominate my car too. This doesnt mean i have all the reason to go street racing all the time.

[M3_KILL3R]

you know wat.......i think your a coward and a bad driver to be able to sit there and say that your a "racer". If you really want to drive fast and show your skills come to the track where i know you'll see what real drivers can do with their cars potentials. Why would you classify yourself as a street racer? That brings you down on so many levels and puts you in the same field as the other civic street racers out there. Ive had so many friends and family members pass away due to street racing and i think its the stupidest thing anyone can do! Now thats just my opinion...and btw the strongest man will quiver at his own strength.

[larryn]

Originally Posted by 318racer

well i race a decent amount, but im not the best driver...

I'd say you were lucky you haven't created a statistic yet, or become one yourself. You should probably do some track and autocross events (autox is cheaper and will improve your day to day driving skills more), instead of risking your life and others who are unfortuante enough to be driving near you.

Even if you think you are pretty remote, unless you're on a closed circuit, you have no way of knowing where everybody else in the world is at the time you decide to have some race. On a track or at an autocross event, you do.

As others have said, the title "street racer" is pretty close to "chump".

[hitchhike79]

At first this was supposed to be on some airport or something yea? Yet its now a kind of twisty and sort of drag race? I dont know really whats going on but really dont care right now. The threads mostly BS anyways and i highly doubt much truth to it.

So im going to jack this thread and say we should put a cap on street racing threads/post/discussions. It will just make us another bimmerforums and a waste of time to even read the forums. If your one of those folks who needs to race and talk about it, i say we just point you too bimmerforums. This site is just getting more and more traffic, to associate with the streetracing side of driving would just not be what i came here for.