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Old 03-21-2009, 02:50 AM   #1
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So, what should I do when I find an ebay seller using my photos of my cars to sell their products (and I didn't buy them from that seller)?



1. I'm kinda flattered, who really cares?

2. Send a nice, but stern, email to cease and desist?

3. "Key" his car... (I happen to know where it is right now...)

4. Go to BF.c and leave derogatory statments about them (they are also a vendor there...), and get promptly banned?

5. Demand royalties...


I know that I am publishing photos through a public hosting site to a public forum, so I really don't have a legal leg to stand on. Also, I am not angry or anything like that. It's just funny (lame) that a vendor who is a major player in the BMW aftermarket can't go take their own picures?

Here is the auction link... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E...ayphotohosting
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:55 AM   #2
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its against eBay's TOS actually.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...ext-theft.html
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Old 03-21-2009, 04:44 AM   #3
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lol, I had a feeling it was going to be them. You are absolutely right about being banned on bf.c, I can't believe the admins there are so unwilling to help the community. I'm pretty sure they would just tell you to get lost if you sent a cease and desist email or asked for royalties. So...that leaves do nothing or do...something.
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Old 03-21-2009, 05:09 AM   #4
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Their policies are about other ebay sellers/users, which I am not... The burden of proof seems to lie with me, proving I "own" (ie; copywrited) the photos to get them to act...

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lol, I had a feeling it was going to be them. ... So...that leaves do nothing or do...something.
His car is in a shop about 4 blocks from my house as we speak


Really, I don't care about the pictures, since they are not anything special. I just find it so pathetic that he needs to "steal" to sell...
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Old 03-21-2009, 05:34 AM   #5
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I know what you mean James. That twit in Colorado Springs stole pics of Sean's car that the other guy posted to sell it. I called them and told them it was fraud...not to mention the wording in their ad didn't even match the car or pics thereof! They apologized and promptly removed them. But it is baloney...I guess you could take it as a tribute to your photography skills though...
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Old 03-21-2009, 06:16 AM   #6
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I vote for option 6- free product.

First contact them directly and ask that they remove your picture or at least be stand up and compensate you for the use of the image. Doing so will avoid public discussion about why a major supplier to bimmer enthusiasts cannot respect other peoples work muchless afford their own digital camera. Make note that bf.c is not the only forum in town and even getting banned wouldn't stop you from posting on epinions, yelp. etc.

Seems like a no brainer for them to send you a shift kit, some neon valve caps or some other sh!t they can't move vs. bad publicity.
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how to tell the world about this:

1) start a facebook group about hating the new layout
2) wait for millions to join
3) spam list with bmw propaganda
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Old 03-21-2009, 06:28 AM   #8
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Sorry Wolf, I can't stop laughing, its just hilarious that Umnitza keeps giving me reasons to stay away from them. If anything, I would feel flattered.
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No need to apologize, I pretty much agree... There are plenty of vendors out there to do business with, vendors who care about their customers and reputation...
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Old 03-21-2009, 12:49 PM   #10
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For the present, contacting EBay would force the issue. In the future if you do not want your pictures used with out permission, you have to put your name on them using Photoshop or some other editing program. This is why you see pictures posted online with the owners name on them in a prominent spot so it cannot be easily edited out.
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I bought from *that* vendor about 4 years ago without an issue. I do agree about them using other people's pics for their gain being wrong. Also I'll bet you have an OEM bumper vs. their aftermarket replica. So strictly speaking, their ad is false advertising.

p.s. bf.c is sucking lately, it's always down and having problems.
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I deal with this once a week. I actually troll eBay looking for my pictures.

This is what I do.

Send a message through eBay saying they have 24 hours to remove the picture before I report them to eBay and begin further legal action.

Both of which I am ready and willing to do but I have never had to go to the next step. People always take them down, knock on wood. I am never nasty, I don't name call or tell them how awful it is to steal photos.

Then I block them as a buyer on my listings...
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I bought from *that* vendor about 4 years ago without an issue. I do agree about them using other people's pics for their gain being wrong. Also I'll bet you have an OEM bumper vs. their aftermarket replica. So strictly speaking, their ad is false advertising.
Every vendor has fans and enemies, but I have heard more negative feedback about him than any other. I have not purchased from him, so this is based on reading reviews.

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For the present, contacting EBay would force the issue. In the future if you do not want your pictures used with out permission, you have to put your name on them using Photoshop or some other editing program. This is why you see pictures posted online with the owners name on them in a prominent spot so it cannot be easily edited out.
The funniest part is that this is what I would consider a "throw-away" image. I shall (in the future) put some kind of identifier on any image that I publish.

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I deal with this once a week. I actually troll eBay looking for my pictures.

This is what I do.

Send a message through eBay saying they have 24 hours to remove the picture before I report them to eBay and begin further legal action.

Both of which I am ready and willing to do but I have never had to go to the next step. People always take them down, knock on wood. I am never nasty, I don't name call or tell them how awful it is to steal photos.
This is the course of action that I took. We shall see if the images are still there tomorrow...
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If my pictures were being used I don't see how it would negatively impact me so I don't think I'd care.
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when I first read the thread title and the beginning of the post I thought you meant someone was trying to sell a car and using pictures of yours, that would really piss me off, but honestly, if I saw my ti pop up as a display picture on extremedimensions.com I'd love it, I'd probably show it to everyone I know
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