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Old 03-19-2012, 06:49 AM   #1
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Hi guys, My name is Chris and I'm newly registered, but not new to this forum, as I've used it as a resource for researching this swap for the past 6 months or so.

Any way, I'm going to be doing an OBD2 S52 swap into a 318Ti. I haven't found a good Ti yet, so I'm still looking to buy. I do however own an M3 that I just picked up for an incredible deal. I used to own a 97 M3 lux edition. However, that was back when I was apparently too irresponsible to own one and wrecked it. If anyone has any suggestions on cars to buy, I'm all ears. I'm willing to fly to almost any location within 1000 miles of Texas, but I really want a clean post '96 model. Preferably a Clubsport edition with a bad motor or Ti with the M3 kit. 4500 is my max for the Ti, though I'd like to keep this swap as cheap as possible.

I do have a question about the complications of buying an auto Ti. Will all of the shifty bits from the M3 bolt on? Are there differences in the firewall or anything?

Will I be able to source out a 5-speed Ti center console easily? Also, will the gauge cluster from the M3 bolt into the dash of the Ti, since I want the MPG gauge?

One more. EWS, so if I understand this correctly, I will take the Ti down to the dealer with the EWS module and DME from the M3 and ask them to align it to the Ti, expecting to pay around 100 bucks?

Here is a pic of my M3 Doner:


The engine bay(Keep in mind, she hasn't been run or cleaned in a while):


The car came with the following mods:
UUC Short throw shifter(My favorite of the following)
X-brace Front strut bar
UUC Euro Oil Cooler(awesome)
3.5" HFM connected to some type of oil based foam intake made by itb(I know, it's bad for the MAF)
M50 manifold(with the ripoff conversion plate thing instead of home brew)
Non-Ebay headers and mid-pipe (forgot the brand)
Some type of tune from one of the bigger brands(Maybe a shark injector? idk)
Silicon radiator hoses
Springs and struts with sway bars(Forgot the brand)
Some type of slotted brake rotors
this cool aluminum belly pan to replace the plastic one
Glass lens halos(Won't use them, Halo's are for 5's imo)
And as the guy I bought the car from so strongly pushed, "100$ spark plugs dude!" (Lol)
Some other stuff I'm probably forgetting.

During the engine pull, I'm going to put loc-tite on the pump nut, anyone have suggestions on this, vs. wiring it? I won't weld it, as I want it to be serviceable.

I knew the guy who sold me the car, in fact the way I met him in 09 was because the car got rear ended, and he called me for insurance suggestions. At that point I knew I was gonna buy it, only for an e30 swap, until I recently decided on a Ti that is.

So anyway, I'm currently parting the m3 out completely before it goes to the car crusher, so if anyone needs anything from it, please let me know. I'll also be selling the Ti's front suspension and engine/trans when I get it.

EDIT: Here is the link to the for sale thread:
http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=35782

Oh yea, anyone got some input on these wheels? I kinda like em, though I really want some M-Contours. They have 235's on all four corners.


**********************UPDATE 3-27-2012************************************

Well guys, it's been a long weekend, with the 1800 mile drive from Philly, but I have picked up a 318Ti! It is relatively clean, with only a few minor problems that I'm in the process of fixing. I washed and waxed the car yesterday and swapped out the BMW Emblems, and the kidneys for black ones I had laying around from my old M3. I can't decide on the foglights. I will be going with lightly smoked side markers and blinkers, so input would be appreciated; Yellow or keep the white ones?

Here is the car after I cleaned her up:




There is rust on the rear quarter panel and a bit on the hood.(Yikes!) I'll be painting the areas of rust, either by myself or at a shop. I feel pretty confident of painting, since my Dad and I did a single stage paint job on a Merc Unimog that turned out great.
The interior had the common problems with door panels becoming unglued from the black plastic things, which I currently have new glue drying in my garage.

Also, the glove box doesn't latch on the right side and the handle is lopsided! Is this common?

Here is some pics of the progress I've made on the M3!:

Interior is almost stripped completely. Next is the Heater Box, carpet, headliner, and the rest of the chassis Harness.




Beginning to prepare the motor for removal!


ECU and Startup air pump thingy removed:



Front clip removed:


What kind of pulleys are these?

Harness unplugged:


Parts pile is building up! People, buy stuff!




Well that's it for now. Today I will be taking the Ti to get window tint and to the dealer for the EWS alignment as well as some misc interior parts and clips. Next update will include the motor pull, interior Ti pics, and the Ti Battery relocation!

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Old 03-19-2012, 07:30 AM   #2
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How much for side skirts shipped to 90814?
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:18 AM   #3
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For 4500 you should find a good ti .

Heck mines for sale lol ..
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Glass lens halos any front pics and how much and shipped to 80021

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Old 03-19-2012, 05:34 PM   #5
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Thanks for the quick replies! This forum is pretty awesome.

As for the side skirts and headlights, I'll take detailed pictures and pm you guys with a shipping price as soon as I get home from school today.

Anyone got suggestions on where to buy loads of cheap boxes? I'll probably make some of the larger ones out of some old giant boxes I have.

Also, when I get home I'll be making an "official" for sale part out thread that I will update with pictures and details as soon as I can and post a link to it in this one, as i'd like to try and follow the forum's intended format.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:16 PM   #6
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I worked at a liquor store for a couple summers and we had tons of boxes, I'd give them away when people asked for them.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:38 PM   #7
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Great advice, my sister works at one so I may now have a box source.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:29 PM   #8
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I sell a lot of M3 parts. Most of my boxes come from Lowes. You can get small moving boxes here for $0.70 and medium-sized ones for $1.35. That'll cover most of the smaller stuff on the car. If you're selling larger interior parts, you might have to get creative with taping together boxes, building crates, or getting pallets. I simply just restrict it to local sales since there are a ton of people in the NYC area.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:43 PM   #9
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do u still have the m3 driveshaft? if so is it a 4 bolt and manual m3? if so how much shipped to 98002
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:58 PM   #10
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Ragnorak: Thanks! I'll be going to Lowes asap now!

Jean: Sorry but I will be using the front half of the M3 drive shaft. If you want the rear half, I can sell that. It is a manual, I'm not sure on the 4-bolt I'll have to look when I get off of school.
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Well guys, it happened. The heart removal has occurred, and I took pics of some of the interior panels after repairs!

Here you go! Enjoy, and NEVER pull a motor out this way. I should have just used the engine hoist and separated the sub-frame. My friend who was helping almost lost his fingers! It wasn't worth the time saved not removing the engine mounts and stuff to lose the time dealing with trying to hold and stabilize 10 things at once!

Here are some pics of the new window tint:




Interior repair results, sorry, no before pics but know they were BAD!:




Heater Box conquered!:


Carpet removed:


Gotta love German automobiles!


Rear battery cable removal:



Fixed the M3 steering wheel, it's black again!:


M50 manifold for sale. I bought this one for my old M3 and never installed it! 95 bucks plus shipping takes it:


Fully detached and prepared to pull:


Pulled and naked M3 pics!:

Talk about some caster! haha, I reiterate, Do not do it this way! It sucked, we dropped the motor off a jack, and my friend smashed his fingers saving the intake manifold, throttle body, and dipstick tube.


Well that's all for now, I was completely exhaust after pulling the motor. Next up is some simple stuff:
-Relocating the ti battery to the rear
-Mounting the M wheel.
-Hoisting the motor and removing/cleaning the accessories.
-Repairing the wiring harness where PO shredded it for the 3.5" HFM.
-Prepping for paint
-Ordering a bunch o' parts
-Cleaning up the bay to factory immaculateness.
-Removing the M3 rear subframe, suspension, brakes, and diff.
-Installing additional motor mods, like 24Lb injectors.
-Installing the motor
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From your original post ..."One more. EWS, so if I understand this correctly, I will take the Ti down to the dealer with the EWS module and DME from the M3 and ask them to align it to the Ti, expecting to pay around 100 bucks?"

Do you have the following?
The original S52 Engine?
The original DME from the S52 engine?
The original ignition M3 key(s)
The original EWS box that sits behind the glove box. I believe it has a green label.

If your answer is yes to the above questions, you do not have to visit the dealer.
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Shellback, thanks for the reply to that question. I don't have the keys though. :/ So I need to have the DME aligned to the ti's keys and EWS. I found out yesterday though, that the EWS module stores an ISN key that is given by the DME. The DME is manufactured with a set ISN key and it isn't changeable. The EWS's storage is though. So, this means I can't drive the 4-cyl car down to the dealer with the S52 DME because aligning it to the S52 will un-align it with the M44. I guess I'll either delete EWS through AA or have the finished car towed there by my cousin.
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